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Significant power shift @ the Harbinger

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Significant power shift @ the Harbinger

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teclado
05.29.2015 , 11:13 AM | #31
I doubt that any of us play all day long (I hope), so there probably is a fair amount of apples-n-oranges comparing going on here. We all have our own little time-slice of data that we are trying to compile into a general statement about the faction balance on the server. I play 7-ish to 10-ish pm pacific time on weeknights. During that little 12.5% time-slice, I have recently (past few weeks) been really struggling to get a win pub side on most weeknights (not all, but most). Some games are fairly close, but many are not anywhere near close. Does anybody disagree with that assessment for that time period?

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Master-Nala
05.29.2015 , 11:31 AM | #32
Quote: Originally Posted by teclado View Post
I doubt that any of us play all day long (I hope), so there probably is a fair amount of apples-n-oranges comparing going on here. We all have our own little time-slice of data that we are trying to compile into a general statement about the faction balance on the server. I play 7-ish to 10-ish pm pacific time on weeknights. During that little 12.5% time-slice, I have recently (past few weeks) been really struggling to get a win pub side on most weeknights (not all, but most). Some games are fairly close, but many are not anywhere near close. Does anybody disagree with that assessment for that time period?
I would agree with that, I normally play earlier than that and it hasn't been as bad. But I'm in the central time zone.
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Cherepk
05.29.2015 , 12:15 PM | #33
Quote: Originally Posted by Juithtin View Post
Pretty much this. I levelled an operative and a sorc there a coupls months back, and pubs were atrocious. Virtually every match was imp v imp and those that weren't was imps wiping the floor with pubs.

Regardless of what it's like now on Harb, it'll shift again in a month or two - it always does.
Some days on Bastion i win 60 % + of games. Some days cannot even get 2 wins a night. What i noticed that more and more people que on Rep with 0 exhumed gear or even if they geared they have no idea how to do basic damage rotation, where there is like 2-3 Imps that are full Dark Reaver geared that triple damage number of average Rep player.

I understand that most are new toons and don't have gear which is ok, but being fully Exhumed and not able to pull decent number is definitely upsetting.

My question is where all Pub that que iranked in WZ.

Lastly it is very sad that Bio created light side being so unattractive and their stories being lot less fun. Also light saber wearers are most popular classes in this game it seems and Imp animations attract lot lot more people.
Lets compare is it cooler to kill someone with pebbles or with purple wave of death.

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AlrikFassbauer
05.30.2015 , 04:30 AM | #34
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But I will say this.. Coming from a server where the pubside has completely disintegrated, I can say you guys don't realize how good you actually have it here.
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Good for you, eventually REP population will seize to exists. The only server left where pub still can land a win is Bastion and even there its going down hill.

You could always transfer to any other server and dominate WZ....................
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Typically it seems imps tend to dominate more often than pubs across the servers in pvp, but some servers have had better pub populations pvp-wise. I never thought of Bastion as one of them.
Quote: Originally Posted by Juithtin View Post
Pretty much this. I levelled an operative and a sorc there a coupls months back, and pubs were atrocious. Virtually every match was imp v imp and those that weren't was imps wiping the floor with pubs.

What actually freightens me is that Harbinger was probably the very last server with good Republic numbers ...

And now all 100 % servers are getting into 100 % Imperial side domination ...

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Lastly it is very sad that Bio created light side being so unattractive and their stories being lot less fun. Also light saber wearers are most popular classes in this game it seems and Imp animations attract lot lot more people.
Lets compare is it cooler to kill someone with pebbles or with purple wave of death.
I agree to 200 % . It's intentional. Because "evil = the new good". People just LOVE to play "evil", rather than playing "oh **** so BOOOOOOOOOOOOOORING" good sides.

SWTOR fas focused in Empire fist and foremost. Bioware wanted to present the players an playabble Empire side - and they put so much *more* energy into it that it can be seen everywhere. Those who don't are either too insensitive to sense it, blind or biased, cynically speaking.

Republic side basically feels like an "oops, we must present the players something else than just Empire" stapled-on part, even more cynically speaking.

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Aumvaar
05.30.2015 , 06:49 AM | #35
Quote: Originally Posted by AlrikFassbauer View Post
Republic side basically feels like an "oops, we must present the players something else than just Empire" stapled-on part, even more cynically speaking.
On the PvE side, I don't see that at all. All of the Pub-side PvE I've done has been a good deal of fun, & the three stories I've been working on have all been more-or-less interesting, with the Smuggler & Trooper stories being particularly amusing. My overall favorite character is my Sith Inquisitor, but in terms of which faction I prefer for story, etc., definitely the Pub-side.
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DomiSotto
05.30.2015 , 06:52 AM | #36
Well, played yesterday, and Hustle is great. Strong aggressive well-coordinate DPS. They are prone to farming. All and all, if you've played against our own home-grown Imperial guilds you know which, you've played against the same ruthless and powerful group play. They just play more and at a different time slot. Good stuff.
Deal.

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dillingerescplan
05.30.2015 , 07:59 AM | #37
Dunno what you guys are talking about. Played pub side harbinger last night from 10 to 1 est and didn't lose a single match.
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Master-Nala
05.30.2015 , 08:57 AM | #38
Quote: Originally Posted by AlrikFassbauer View Post
I agree to 200 % . It's intentional. Because "evil = the new good". People just LOVE to play "evil", rather than playing "oh **** so BOOOOOOOOOOOOOORING" good sides.

SWTOR fas focused in Empire fist and foremost. Bioware wanted to present the players an playabble Empire side - and they put so much *more* energy into it that it can be seen everywhere. Those who don't are either too insensitive to sense it, blind or biased, cynically speaking.

Republic side basically feels like an "oops, we must present the players something else than just Empire" stapled-on part, even more cynically speaking.
Don't fall into hyperbole to make your point. There are some areas where the Imperial side seems to be favored, but it is not anywhere near as ubiquitous as you state. Just one example, remember that the whole story of the first three acts is the Republic kicking the Empire's butt.
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DomiSotto
05.30.2015 , 09:07 AM | #39
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Dunno what you guys are talking about. Played pub side harbinger last night from 10 to 1 est and didn't lose a single match.
The exciting thing is, there were tons of matches going on on the Binger yesterday night. I was hoping to vs. someone on the imperial side, and I haven't seen the toon once. Go, Harbinger!
Deal.

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sauerkraut
05.30.2015 , 09:02 PM | #40
Guess Pubs transferred to Harbinger from Bastion, world pvp was just too much stress for them. I'm gonna miss them.