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LFG Tool... Why all the negativity?

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LFG Tool... Why all the negativity?

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Ituhata
12.27.2011 , 05:57 PM | #71
It's wierd, before LFG came along I met all of the friends I currently hang out with online, we completed quests and conquered all that stood before us. There are times when they are not on, but I somehow still managed to find groups to do things, and earned a reputation on my server as someone who can get the job done, no matter what role I happened to be dabbling in.

This strange phenomenon where people on the server actually talked to you while you ran the instance and you couldnt be a total tool or no one on the server would run with you, it was awe inspiring and ya'll should have seen it.

Ever since LFG came along no one sees the need to communicate, everyone shows up without so much as a 'hi' and when I heal i just sort of figure out who's tanking by the guy that dives right in. then its over, and people leave group and the process starts all over again. Guys, I can make NPC characters to run with me who are more interactive than the "community" of wow can muster in a dungeon.

You can argue it all you want but there is no denying what happened over there. If it weren't for raiding there'd be no need to talk to anyone, you can play solo with the help of nameless mutes who accompany you. I hear they made lfr's. Assuming they dumb down the content enough so pug raiders could handle it then WoW will accomplish being the largest MSO ever.

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Flyjedi
12.27.2011 , 06:03 PM | #72
Quote: Originally Posted by Ituhata View Post
It's wierd, before LFG came along I met all of the friends I currently hang out with online, we completed quests and conquered all that stood before us. There are times when they are not on, but I somehow still managed to find groups to do things, and earned a reputation on my server as someone who can get the job done, no matter what role I happened to be dabbling in.

This strange phenomenon where people on the server actually talked to you while you ran the instance and you couldnt be a total tool or no one on the server would run with you, it was awe inspiring and ya'll should have seen it.

Ever since LFG came along no one sees the need to communicate, everyone shows up without so much as a 'hi' and when I heal i just sort of figure out who's tanking by the guy that dives right in. then its over, and people leave group and the process starts all over again. Guys, I can make NPC characters to run with me who are more interactive than the "community" of wow can muster in a dungeon.

You can argue it all you want but there is no denying what happened over there. If it weren't for raiding there'd be no need to talk to anyone, you can play solo with the help of nameless mutes who accompany you. I hear they made lfr's. Assuming they dumb down the content enough so pug raiders could handle it then WoW will accomplish being the largest MSO ever.

Some people don't want to "talk" the entire time they play. Maybe they aren't social, maybe they don't have all the time in the world to chat when they want to just work on something.

The point still stands. Give us tools. Those who want to use them will, and those who don't, won't. It's all about a choice. For all those people who want to spend time chatting, the tool won't change anything for you, or the people like you who don't want to just run and instance and move on.

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Kandorr
12.27.2011 , 06:04 PM | #73
Why does it have to be cross server? People automatically assume that it has to be based on WoW's cross server tool.

The devs made an interesting comment that they wanted people to 'explore' the game, that's why there is no LFG tool. With Flashpoints, how exactly do I explore the game when they are found in one hub on the Fleet ship? I also don't see how spamming general chat is classed as 'socialising'?

I'm yet to run a FP. Reasons being is I want to quest and explore the game, not be locked into sitting on the Fleet ship spamming general chat looking for a group.

Anyway, moot argument. I won't be around long enough for it to matter. Enjoy your social MMO

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pinealogik
12.27.2011 , 06:06 PM | #74
Quote: Originally Posted by Flyjedi View Post
I should change my entire lifestyle, and make friends in an imaginary world so I can progress my character, and maybe play with them when they are around. Because I'm sure they'll want to do what I want to do, when I want to do it.

You aren't FORCED to use it. You can spam general all day long if you want. I won't tell you what tools to use and what tools not to use. You enjoy the game the way you want to. If your concern is that everyone will be using the tool, well I guess everyone would want to, or there would be 5 people in it, and 500 LFG in general right? Oh wait.. people WANT the convenience.

All this "proof" that it ruins games and causes people to be less social... where do you guys come up with this? Because one time you played WoW, or Rift, and got a couple idiots from the LFG tool? Because those SAME idiots would never have been invited into a group spamming general chat right?

I've outlined the benefits, and they are facts. The naysayers make wild accusations about it "ruining the game" and "nobody socializes". Because spamming LFG is socializing is it? Riiiiiight.

Since all you people that hate it have tons of friends and have NO problems finding groups, that's great. Keep on playing with your friends and you guys have a great time chit chatting while you play. Maybe some people don't want to chit chat in an instance group. Maybe they just want to kill things and move on.

Where the hell do you get off telling me how I should play the game? Seriously.. I can't play the game the way I want, because YOU think I should make friends and socialize instead. You want to FORCE me to play how YOU think the game should be played. Do you see me telling you that you MUST use an LFG tool and not play with your friends and socialize? Ummm no. Think about that, even though once again, the premise of the post has gone right over your head.

If you don't want to talk/interact with other people, then why are you even playing this game? I don't get it. This is an MMO, not a single player game. What you are looking for is something like Mass Effect, Skyrim or Dragon Age. In those games, you don't have to interact with anyone. You get AI bots to help you, and you can do whatever you want.

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Xerda
12.27.2011 , 06:06 PM | #75
Quote: Originally Posted by Kandorr View Post
I also don't see how spamming general chat is classed as 'socialising'?
Hit the nail on the head.
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Flyjedi
12.27.2011 , 06:07 PM | #76
Oh, one more thing I forgot to mention.

Perhaps a lot of you social people are playing with people you know in real life and perhaps you're all playing Imperial. You know, the faction with 3 to 4 times more players on most servers than Republic. So you have a much larger pool of people to start with, so please, stop basing your experience with finding groups based on your server and your faction.

I can sit outside a low level instance spamming general for an hour trying to find a spot in a group. That is not how I want to spend my time, and it is only going to get worse as I get to higher levels where there are even less people.

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belialle
12.27.2011 , 06:08 PM | #77
Quote: Originally Posted by Kandorr View Post
Why does it have to be cross server? People automatically assume that it has to be based on WoW's cross server tool.

The devs made an interesting comment that they wanted people to 'explore' the game, that's why there is no LFG tool. With Flashpoints, how exactly do I explore the game when they are found in one hub on the Fleet ship? I also don't see how spamming general chat is classed as 'socialising'?

I'm yet to run a FP. Reasons being is I want to quest and explore the game, not be locked into sitting on the Fleet ship spamming general chat looking for a group.

Anyway, moot argument. I won't be around long enough for it to matter. Enjoy your social MMO
You do know that it would probably be easier to build an FP group in your questing zone anyhow, right? That's where there are lots of other people around your level who might also want to run it. There are even shuttles on the planets that will take where you need to go to run the FP.

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HalusW
12.27.2011 , 06:12 PM | #78
Quote: Originally Posted by laparkuh View Post
Truth is, if WoW never used the LFD tool then people here would welcome it.
This.

There is a game that already has it and that game is full of douche baggery. Why bring all that baggage here. If you are unable to find a guild or a couple of friends, is a MMO style game really your cup of tea?

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Gunryu
12.27.2011 , 06:12 PM | #79
Quote: Originally Posted by Nitewolfe View Post
No the misconception is that a lfd tool destroys a community.
A lfd tool actually allows for more interaction with others since it allows you to group up faster.
If its cross server and they allow us to have cross server friends list then it even expands the community past the gated type of single server that has plagued the genre for years.
Have you even PLAYED WoW since the LFD? Yeah show me interaction besides the casual "Hi".

If the LFD gets implemented and it's only for your server great, but if everything goes cross server I will leave this game so fast.
You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new. - Steve Jobs

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Kandorr
12.27.2011 , 06:15 PM | #80
Quote: Originally Posted by belialle View Post
You do know that it would probably be easier to build an FP group in your questing zone anyhow, right? That's where there are lots of other people around your level who might also want to run it. There are even shuttles on the planets that will take where you need to go to run the FP.
Yeah I've asked about that while questing, but no one is interested. While in the zones people just want groups for the heroic areas, not the FP's.