Questions about Juggs/Guardians in PVP (tanking and dps)

600 bonus damage?
you only have six hundred bonus damage?!

I have over 1200 bonus damage stimmed. Heck full tanks have more than 600 bonus damage.

I am well aware that I am on the upper end when it comes to bonus damage, but I shouldn't be doubling your bonus damage. Seriously dude, drop ~5% crit can get some damn bonus damage, Nobody should be sub 1k bonus damage for any reason, and really you ought to be closer to 1100.

For the guy that was lecturing about soft caps, you have succeeded in ramming yourself straight into both the crit and the surge DR curves. And rammed yourself hard.

1) because my 9k to 10k attacks to my opponent's face and dropping the people around me like flies says no. (Or a big fat maybe if I go over my goal)

2) if my scores and being in top 5 at various points says my build sucks then I am not seeing it. I can see my surge dropping in the future. I have not changed out all my mods and enhancements. I am still work on getting the 14k ranked medals for enhancements and 3.2k ranked medals for mods.

1) because my 9k to 10k attacks to my opponent's face and dropping the people around me like flies says no. (Or a big fat maybe if I go over my goal)

Eh, that's a little extreme. If you don't have autocrits, I don't think completely full power is the way to go, but 600 is like full crit status...

Dude if you actually geared yourself properly you would be looking at 12-13k crits if not higher. This isn't 2.0, 9k isn't big anymore.

Here is the thing your are not getting. Surge is a multiplier of base damage, base damage includes your bonus damage, if your bonus damage is ****, then it will be reflected in much weaker Crits. And not only that that your non-crits are going to be total and complete garbage. Your build is completely and utterly dependant on critting, cause you literally can't hit worth crap on a non-crit.

Your crit is just over 8% higher than mine, but your base damage is half of mine. Both your crits and your non-crits are significantly weaker than mine. BTW I am spa tank with a 6% decrease in damage and only has a few damage increase with certain moves.


That was actually one of my Vanguard's stats, and for raw scoreboard DPS that isn't optimal, but that VG was built for running a burst comp in ranked anyways.

Warriors have a autocrit in every DPS spec anyways so there really isn't anything wrong with full power.

Then Zet and I must suck because I produce the same number. In fact, I hadn't met another juggernaut/guardian who has hit me harder then anything I have produce. The against my character was 7k.

Then Zet and I must suck because I produce the same number. In fact, I hadn't met another juggernaut/guardian who has hit me harder then anything I have produce. The against my character was 7k. Defense/immortal get 6% decrease and few increase in damage with skills.

Wat, you straight up said earlier in the thread you considered 1 mil matches to be pretty insane and yet Zet has posted a 2 mil match. Your not even hitting close to his numbers.

But... But... I tried get out but they keep pulling me back in!

I wish I could see videos of you playing

Can I haz?

If not, I... I... would really appreciate... you not fooling yourself into thinking we are on the same level. Reading that kills me a little on the inside. You don't want to do that, right? OR DO YOU!

Dun Dun Duuuun

Huh? Killing you? Not good with movie maker, but I will try to screen cap if i can.