Questions about Juggs/Guardians in PVP (tanking and dps)

Pretty much all PvP DPS classes will want around 75% surge as standard, although you might see some variances with higher alacrity for some specs, notably dotspecs.

I typically run power builds and have low crit although I can see arguments for higher crit builds for some specs. For all warrior DPS specs I would run a all power build simply because of the fact that all warrior DPS specs have a built in Autocrit in addition to the 6pc setbonus, which means that crit is heavily devalued in PvP for the specs.

I wouldn't touch alacrity at all for a Juggernaut DPS, however they have enough white damage that it might be a good idea to invest in a accuracy enhancement maybe two.

surge DR is so steep running that much surge seems a little excessive for vengeance.

Pretty much all PvP DPS classes will want around 75% surge as standard, although you might see some variances with higher alacrity for some specs, notably dotspecs.

I typically run power builds and have low crit although I can see arguments for higher crit builds for some specs. For all warrior DPS specs I would run a all power build simply because of the fact that all warrior DPS specs have a built in Autocrit in addition to the 6pc setbonus, which means that crit is heavily devalued in PvP for the specs.

I wouldn't touch alacrity at all for a Juggernaut DPS, however they have enough white damage that it might be a good idea to invest in a accuracy enhancement maybe two.

A tip on the surge DR, I forget the enhancement names but don't use the stand low endurance power/surge enhancements. Get the enhancements that have higher power with lower surge. They have a little bit more endurance which is regrettable but you end with much higher base damage without pushing the surge DR so hard. When I run a full power/surge build (Ex: my vanguard and merc) I have half my enhancements being the above.

Also it isn't that alacrity is bad. In fact it isn't for the very reasons you listed, the issue is that you really can't get enough of it to see any performance gain in a practical situation. At least you can't get enough without murdering your surge.

Sure you can! You can murder your mainstat!

also, alacrity has the flipside of being the ONLY stat that benefits you while you aren't hitting things, because cooldowns still tick down during downtime, so as long as you aren't having long stretches of downtime, alacrity is actually still highly beneficial, even more so than static stats that do NOTHING during time away from target or in transit.

Enhancements don't have mainstat.



3% off of a long *** cooldown is still a long *** cooldown.

As I mentioned in one of my earlier posts, I've set up my tank guardian as a hybrid using a mix of DPS gear...
Currently I have 70% surge, 23% Crit, zero Alacrity, 111/101 accuracy (from tank stance), 31% shield, 10.9% defence, 27% absorbtion... I've stacked a mix a Fortitude and Overkill enhancements to improve health 44K and power 2.1K Bonus damage
I've done this by equipping DPS ear, implants, one power relic and one tank relic, dps sabre, tank shield, 1 DPS Armor piece... The rest or the 6 pieces of Armor are tank for the set bonus, but I have swapped out most mods and enhancements for Surge, power and Crit over defence, shield, absorption
I'm in the top 3 normally for DPS, sometimes first if I'm on a poor team... And my protect is usually first and I rarely die... While I'm not a dedicated tank, I feel I am doing more for my team in regs than I would purely as a tank build... The healers that I guard, if we have any, are more than happy with my protection... I think the extra DPS is vital, especially in matches with no healers... Of course I wouldn't run this build for ranked teams... But solo ranked seems alright as we rarely have a healer

600 bonus damage?
you only have six hundred bonus damage?!

I have over 1200 bonus damage stimmed. Heck full tanks have more than 600 bonus damage.