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12 x XP for class-missions

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sxykitten
03.24.2015 , 07:20 AM | #641
Quote: Originally Posted by Ratajack View Post
I'm not sure a compromise can be found. It only took 5 posts after your suggested compromise before the first "That's not good enough for me" post showed up. It seems to me as though at least some of those desiring that "light speed, easy mode, fast pass to max level" feel the best compromise is NO compromise---give them EXACTLY what they want or it's no good.

Is it possible that the devs have finally learned their lesson about what happens when you give the mice a cookie?




I may be wrong, but it appears that we don't have to worry about a compromise, though, as I doubt we will be seeing 12XP anytime soon. It looks to me as if those desiring a "light speed, easy mode, fast pass to max level" may very well have to settle for using the already available ways to boost their XP and the double XP events.
X12 XP was hinted at for this May the Fouth./ as always theres a XP event & im sure now that X12 XP is so highly demanded they will..it improves CS sales to some of us buy 100+ Packs of XP boost to sell..

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Ratajack
03.24.2015 , 07:43 AM | #642
Quote: Originally Posted by sxykitten View Post
X12 XP was hinted at for this May the Fouth./ as always theres a XP event & im sure now that X12 XP is so highly demanded they will..it improves CS sales to some of us buy 100+ Packs of XP boost to sell..

Could you provide a link to this "hint"?

Is it possible that this is just people who want that "light speed, easy mode, fast pass to max level" reading into something what they want to see?

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Cherepk
03.24.2015 , 08:44 AM | #643
I don't understand people who against this........ this is mmo, any mmo main aspect is end game. You spent all of you time end gaming. Leveling is just nuance that you have to put up with and learn your class. Yes SWOTR leveling actually is significantly better than other mmos. Whoever wants to experience leveling, they alwasy can but for the rest it would be nice to have options. I personally enjoyed first 15 levels of leveling but now i don't care bout it i am PVP guy and want to PVP at lvl 60, it would be good to have options like wow has to be able to get instant 50 at least have ability to purchase/gain that leveling boost.
I love swotr but leveling via KUAD drive from 15 to 50 is just bloody boring to the point where i wan't to cancel sub.

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EllieAnne
03.24.2015 , 09:00 AM | #644
Quote: Originally Posted by Ratajack View Post
What you generally have is a lot of players who are simply speed rushing through the content in a mad dash to level, with no concern for anyone else around them. You have many players who, rather than group up to kill X number of Y mobs, will claim every quest mob or objective as theirs, and woe to the player who actually tags a mob or grabs an objective himself.

I think a permanent 12XP will simply produce more of the same.
In all fairness, no one knows that. What we saw the first time was 12xXP for a very limited time so people felt they had to rush. If 12xXP is permanent then it is possible people will take their time especially as doing solely class missions does leave you underleveled around level 25.

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Ratajack
03.24.2015 , 09:03 AM | #645
Quote: Originally Posted by Cherepk View Post
I don't understand people who against this........ this is mmo, any mmo main aspect is end game. You spent all of you time end gaming. Leveling is just nuance that you have to put up with and learn your class. Yes SWOTR leveling actually is significantly better than other mmos. Whoever wants to experience leveling, they alwasy can but for the rest it would be nice to have options. I personally enjoyed first 15 levels of leveling but now i don't care bout it i am PVP guy and want to PVP at lvl 60, it would be good to have options like wow has to be able to get instant 50 at least have ability to purchase/gain that leveling boost.
In YOUR opinion, the main aspect is end game. That is not true for everyone.

Quote: Originally Posted by Cherepk View Post
I love swotr but leveling via KUAD drive from 15 to 50 is just bloody boring to the point where i wan't to cancel sub.
I doubt that BW will lose any sleep if you cancel your subscription. You're $15 is but a drop in the bucket. I also doubt that you will actually cancel your subscription as that would limit the number of WZ's you could do.

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Ratajack
03.24.2015 , 09:10 AM | #646
Quote: Originally Posted by EllieAnne View Post
In all fairness, no one knows that. What we saw the first time was 12xXP for a very limited time so people felt they had to rush. If 12xXP is permanent then it is possible people will take their time especially as doing solely class missions does leave you underleveled around level 25.
Then, what you will have is people clamoring for more than 12XP. That's already happening and they haven't even given any indication that they will be bringing 12XP back. Can you imagine the outcries for more than 12XP if they do bring it back?

As I said, it seems that the mice are never satisfied with any of the nice gestures BW has made. They ALWAYS seem to think they are entitled to more.

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TUXs
03.24.2015 , 09:16 AM | #647
Quote: Originally Posted by Ratajack View Post
So, for you the best compromise is NO compromise, just give you EXACTLY what you want-- "a light speed, easy mode, fast pass to max level"?

Why am I not surprised?
What the hell? No lol...

Now pay attention, I told you what I want - I just want to be able to do more Ops and help more people looking for groups.

To do that, I need a way around lockouts. Currently, my only choice is a new toon, I'd like at least a duplicate 60 of my primary class. I don't give a flip if he's insta 60 or I level him via 12xXP or if Bioware just plops him in my character list. I'd be even happier if they revisited and removed lockouts, as then I wouldn't need another character or 12xXP at all then. Until they do, 12xXP is the closest thing I've seen to giving me what I'd like...and I'd like more of it.

My suggestion that you seem to think was "EXACTLY what I want", isn't even close...but I understand that Bioware would like to profit off someone like me who doesn't care about their stories...so my "compromise" was a 3-hour buff that they sell for CC's, just like other buffs they sell.
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Ratajack
03.24.2015 , 09:26 AM | #648
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What the hell? No lol...

Now pay attention, I told you what I want - I just want to be able to do more Ops and help more people looking for groups.

To do that, I need a way around lockouts. Currently, my only choice is a new toon, I'd like at least a duplicate 60 of my primary class. I don't give a flip if he's insta 60 or I level him via 12xXP or if Bioware just plops him in my character list. I'd be even happier if they revisited and removed lockouts, as then I wouldn't need another character or 12xXP at all then. Until they do, 12xXP is the closest thing I've seen to giving me what I'd like...and I'd like more of it.

My suggestion that you seem to think was "EXACTLY what I want", isn't even close...but I understand that Bioware would like to profit off someone like me who doesn't care about their stories...so my "compromise" was a 3-hour buff that they sell for CC's, just like other buffs they sell.
That would give you that "light speed, easy mode, fast pass to max level" so that you can avoid the minimal effort required to level that new character, which seems to be exactly what you want.

Hence, the "Your suggested compromise is NO compromise--just give you EXACTLY what you want". That being the "light speed, easy mode, fast pass to max level".


Now, if you want to talk about removing the lockouts, I'll agree with you there. I would also like to see those lockouts removed so that you, and others, can run those OPS to your heart's content--with the provision that only the first kill of each boss is loot eligible. That would also give those players who find themselves in PUG's that do not finish the instance the chance to join another group and be able to finish the instance.

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ekwalizer
03.24.2015 , 09:33 AM | #649
Quote: Originally Posted by MandFlurry View Post
HELL NO TO LEGACY junk, it's not up to egotistical elitist to say that a Person has to have a LL 50, I don't have a Legacy level of 50, and i'm Not gonna have some brats telling i should be in order for 12X.

It's a damm good thing the Devs also seem to think of such stupid things. Even with 5 60s and even more lvl 50's and 55's, even I don't have a Legacy of 50 yet.

Only Egotistical jerks think that, as ppl would have to have done literally Hundreds things over and over from Ops, Fps, WZs with grouping hundreds of times, I should know, because of all the characters i have. i know what it takes to get to Legacy 50. Ther Hard work is nothing more then Tedious and Painful Physically and mentally for ppl like me

No, it should be a Cartel Market Option/ Subscription 1 time fee, an/or maybe $5-$10.00 fee for each single character ppl want 12X for.


Sorry for my Rage ppl, I do believe ppl should have some 55's and a 60 for making creds to pay for Gear but this Legacy junk isn't right, I think it should either a Cartel Market/ Subscription fee only. The ppl that are against the 12X make Pointless arguements against it, with exception to the Gear problem, in which the Player alone is Respnsible for getting money for that stuff.

Sorry, but i'm just as blunt in Real life to, but very Constructive when i do Betas, I use a better tone.
If you actually READ what I wrote, instead of flying off the handle, you would have seen that in the design I laid out, there is NO LL50 requirement. When I mentioned LL50 it was int he abstract, that I would prefer it to be tied to LL50.

You should really increase your reading comprehension and spelling ability if you are going to brag about all the "betas" you participate in.

Permanent 12x xp is UNREALISTIC. NO GAME offers this. WoW maybe comes close with the ability to buy a level 90; but this isn't WoW - and WoW was 10 years post-release when they did that.

The word you are looking for is "compromise". We are not going to get permanent 12x xp. That would be the death of the game. The game loyalists who are die-hard against it, would leave the game. The game *might* benefit from a temporary influx of players but they would virtually all be transient. This game has a problem retaining new players based on Bioware/EA's draconian F2P model.
Let this sink in, this game is Free to Play, boasts one of the most popular IPs on the planet and yet 76.47% of the servers are empty.

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ekwalizer
03.24.2015 , 09:41 AM | #650
Quote: Originally Posted by EllieAnne View Post
In all fairness, no one knows that. What we saw the first time was 12xXP for a very limited time so people felt they had to rush. If 12xXP is permanent then it is possible people will take their time especially as doing solely class missions does leave you underleveled around level 25.
Limited time? 12XP wasn't a weekend event, it lasted close to 2 months.
Let this sink in, this game is Free to Play, boasts one of the most popular IPs on the planet and yet 76.47% of the servers are empty.