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Juggernauts/Guardians Heal Buff in 3.1.2

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SlightlySychotic
03.05.2015 , 09:28 PM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by hallucigenocide View Post
indeed i am. i also play lots of other classes. sure vengeance is probably up there with pt's and hatred sins in ease of playing.

what's that got to do with anything?
The difference being that PTs and Sins are at the top of the leaderboards and Juggs are near the bottom. So easy to play clearly doesn't translate over to "easy to win."
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03.05.2015 , 09:48 PM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by SlightlySychotic View Post
The difference being that PTs and Sins are at the top of the leaderboards and Juggs are near the bottom. So easy to play clearly doesn't translate over to "easy to win."
That is entirely another thing and a little false to be honest. Good players play a class you need to be good for, and when you master current #1 FOTM class which is Shadow/Assassin you are a MONSTER TRUCK. While some players chose to play Juggernaut because it's their main, or it's easy to play, they will never carry a team, nor will they therefor get good ratings.
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teclado
03.05.2015 , 10:07 PM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by SirMannii View Post
Are Marauder/Sentinel way too overpowered so they felt Juggernauts/Guardians needed something to balance those differences out?
This, obviously.

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Savej
03.05.2015 , 11:00 PM | #14
Juggs are currently at the bottom of the leaderboards in ranked play (if you ignore maras, that is) - they need something significant, especially in higher ranked play. Mercs in their current form are doing significantly better. Snipers are currently doing better.

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03.06.2015 , 12:32 AM | #15
Well, my gf just got into swtor with no experience in mmos and when I thought about which class she should main, there was no doubt in my mind that SW(jugg) is the way to go. They require very few buttons to be effective, very straight forward playstyle, even their *********** mez doesn't require them choosing a target target, their healing doesn't require any action from the player aside from taking damage. All about juggs screams "yep, we wanted to make it easy for you bro so you can focus on dpsing **** in peace". To me they also have the most boring playstyle out of all classes. And now they' will be even more *********** unstoppable.
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03.06.2015 , 02:57 AM | #16
They will end up being the new FOTM class... Which is a shame... I really like my Jugg
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03.06.2015 , 03:06 AM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by Ankhkharu View Post
Well, my gf just got into swtor with no experience in mmos and when I thought about which class she should main, there was no doubt in my mind that SW(jugg) is the way to go. They require very few buttons to be effective, very straight forward playstyle, even their *********** mez doesn't require them choosing a target target, their healing doesn't require any action from the player aside from taking damage. All about juggs screams "yep, we wanted to make it easy for you bro so you can focus on dpsing **** in peace". To me they also have the most boring playstyle out of all classes. And now they' will be even more *********** unstoppable.
It's absolutely the most easy class to play. Good Guardians will always outplay bad ones, but when it comes to damage it's just who is the quickest retard. Spamming same skills over and over and get autocrit on blade storm/force scream and resetproc on dispatch/vicious throw with a Master Strike/Ravage reset on 1 skill hit lol. Also you heal yourself for up to 80k after this patch on 1 ability use, just hilarious.

People who play Guardian/Juggernauts are players who are complete failures as Sentinel/Marauders in current state of the game.
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funkiestj
03.06.2015 , 03:10 AM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by SirMannii View Post
I can tell you're a Juggernaut/Guardian yourself. The fuzz is about your class being the most noob-friendly class in the game in current state. I don't say all Juggernaut/Guardian players are bad, I'm just stating fact out of huge experience to the game and almost all classes.
noob friendly is not a problem. Being overpowered in the hands of a competent player is a problem.

Compared to PTs and assassins, Juggs are a weaker in solo ranked.

I main a guardian/jugg. I don't see that the change is needed for PvP. I agree with the assessment that it was done for PvE.

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funkiestj
03.06.2015 , 03:12 AM | #19
Quote: Originally Posted by Ankhkharu View Post
. And now they' will be even more *********** unstoppable.
Yes, that is why guardian/juggs dominate the leaderboards, because they are unstoppable. Buff hatred please.

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Mclyde
03.06.2015 , 03:21 AM | #20
The think is they don't really want to nerf PT or Sins, but they want to bring the other dps to their level.
It'ill become really really annoying to be a healer...
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