Hatred Sins most OP spec in HISTORY of SWTOR

1v1 there isnt a counter if Sin gets opener, and really wasnt pre 3.0 either with the exception of hybrid juggs. We need to choose a direction I think because now im confused. Are we talking duels or group setting?

You dont really duel in arenas so I may be missing something but countering sins in ranked and matches of the sort is a heavy white damage class. On harbinger people have found alot of success with MM snipers, havent seen double GS yet but GS and guardian, Sorc Sniper, and so on.

If you are 1v1ing them alot has to do with the other players skill. If you are by far better than them you will obviously win, if it is close a good string of crits times right could tilt the battle. Lots of variables when 1v1ing.

Despite what exilove says first opener wins. If my opponent stealthed out and got his opener on me I can stealth and get a second opener, maintaining my health advantage.

I think you guys are proving my original point 500 posts ago. This spec is OP as can be.
Would you agree that we have at the very least identified the following traits about the hatred assassin:

- They are the best 1v1 class in the game. Nobody can outduel them at equal skill.
- They also have the best AOE pressure in the game with 30m auto-crit deathfield and hard-hitting aoe dot spread that self-heals
- They have extremely strong DCD's
- They have stealth

Can we at least agree on the above 4 points?
If you agree with those 4 points. Can you also at least agree, without actually having to admit that the spec is OP, that the facts listed above make for an extremely strong combination?

I personally think it is too much.

Sorcs have higher AOE pressure but Sin has higher single target burst.

Strong is the right word. I think it is the point other classes need to be brought to defensively.

Where were the threads about 1v1 sins before?

Only if they are allowed to continuously cast storm on a group of people.. which doesn't happen arenas.
Sorcs don't beat Sins AoE unless they're left completely untouched.

Only if they are allowed to continuously cast storm on a group of people.. which doesn't happen arenas.
Sorcs don't beat Sins AoE unless they're left completely untouched.

I bet you can open on me with me having 75% hp to start with. And I would still kill you with plenty of health to spare. Getting an opener means nothing if you get outplayed like hell.

And seriously, a team of MM snipers is ridiculously easy to stop.
Saying it's a counter to hatred sins is laughable and makes you look like a clown.

You sound mad, perhaps a little jealous too that Im quite simply better at everything in this game than you are

You played all teh top teamz, Rank 1 playa.

Like, you dont even know what you'd be getting into playing against me or my team lmfao.
Seriously, come to JC. Play my team.

You won't beat it. I wont even have to break a sweat. But you are more than welcome to try.

You sound mad, perhaps a little jealous too that Im quite simply better at everything in this game than you are

You played all teh top teamz, Rank 1 playa.

Like, you dont even know what you'd be getting into playing against me or my team lmfao.
Seriously, come to JC. Play my team.

You won't beat it. I wont even have to break a sweat. But you are more than welcome to try.