Hatred Sins most OP spec in HISTORY of SWTOR

Exactly this.

The "will to win" combined with a "will to dominate".

Proof :


What did you say ? I cannot hear you.

Nice job OP...300 replies. Maybe this thread can compete with the sorcs are broken thread. Has a ways to go though. It's a hundred replies off at the moment.

LOL. Never thought it would blow up like this.

There are pretty viable suggestions for tweaking. Tweaking Serenity/Leeching is the easiest with no much effect to pve.

I offered them as qualifications for talking about the class lol. My statement still stands where i beat you on my bastion toon. You got aggro because i disagreed with you and followed me to other threads lol.
I posed intelligent counter arguments on your whine thread. You resulted to childish tactics because i proposed a smart detailed solution to your woes. You want he class nerfed because you cant handle it. Most good players dont struggle with sins lol. You do, whats that say about you dude.

Logic prevails, use it.

^ This...sorry to say but sins are good but not that good. Can the self healing be toned down? Sure but that's about it. Hell I don't even main a sin...

I've no idea why people keep thinking the dotspread is the primary issue... Clueless people.

What bioware did with 3.0 was rework the specs attempting to fit the specs into respective class archetypes. After said rework madness/balance sorc/sage lost all their burst and pretty much all their single target dps. They gained life steal and great team pressure instead - alas the swtor warlock was born. There have always been tendencies towards such a design decision but really the specs were poorly designed and their execution sucked. Now, however, the game is trying to provide a distinct difference between the different specs. Solo pressure? Team pressure? Burst? Sustained?

Things have since 3.0 changed.

EXCEPT...

Serenity/Hatred assassins got to keep their assassinate proc? LOL WHAT?
Serenity/Hatred assassins got to keep all their surge bonuses in their skill tree? LOL WHAT?

Meanwhile there were nerfs across the board to sorc/sage in order to make them less bursty. Either bioware forgot about the serenity/hatred or they wanted them to be op because there's no way to design a melee spec with sustained group pressure in mind thats supposed to be running around with 7-11k crits on a relatively low CD.

The spec is broken.
The ulities, meanwhile above, are also broken. Someone had one too many to drink before finalising these.

Edit: And before someone disputes this, do explain how you can possibly defend a AoE-pressure sustained spec having almost the same burst as the class' dedicated burst spec?

i challenge Evolixe to a test just to show you all just utilities has nothing to do with how op the spec is no taking dark stability or any cc immunity run a stream and link it here. I can tell you what will happen Evolixe will own with out dark stability then what will you all say? When he proves you all wrong then what.

Operatives are good, they roll, dodge resist everything hit you a couple of times then roll away and heal up with dots. Ops are doing well at the moment. i see 10k hits from them all the time.

I'll help you out a little bit here: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=definition+of+logic

My assassin is now level 46, having a blast with it. Should be 60 with full exhumed gear within a week. Cheers.