Hatred Sins most OP spec in HISTORY of SWTOR

That is the entire point of the spec..

If you want single target damage, go play Infiltration.

All you guys complaining about Hatred sins, must suck at PvP. They have the lowest DMG reduction, only 2 real def CD which only works well against sorcs/sins (force shroud) and juggernaut/Mara, and some of snipers(saberward). If it wasn't for that DoT spread they wouldn't be top DPS. But I do have to agree their stun immunity perk needs to be nerfed. Their best defensive Cold down is force cloak. I don't see the point for DoT spreads, or the 12s stun immunity, 5s would have been fine. They do need that immunity but not for 12s long. A class that only has 1 def cooldowns for meelee And one for force users, and one they use when they're getting rekt on to run away, is not OP. Their stun Immunity is rather too long, and the DoT spread is unnecessary, if you can not kill a Sin. I feel sorry for you.

Guys seriously learn to play before complaining about how OP a class is.

Just an FYI, I play madness sorc, first and main toon, still think DoT spread should be taken out of game.

Rofl, are you portraiting Sin survivability as weak?

Are you actually serious?

A Hatred sin's survivability is second only to that of a Jugg. Not because of amazing damage reductions or even even it's healing. But because it's survival revolves around evading damage to begin with.

hehe.

Assuming BW brings overtuned classes back to their rightful place, hatred sin/madness sorc even with nerfed dotspread would still be very effective but with a slight push for deception/infil it would actually give me an option to play the spec i enjoy most instead of going for what is atm the only reasonable choice of you want to win.

Exactly the point they just run, heal and comeback. With only two defensives cooldowns that can actually keep them up a few seconds longer. which are not very effective against non-force users. Just because they can avoid a few swings from a jugg or mara and become immune / purge abilities of sorcs / sins does not mean their survivorbility is second to juggs. it just means they have one def cd for meelee and force abilities. The rest is just running and kiting. Other than that the only thing keeping sins alive is the stun immunity, and leeching strike. They are glass cannons. Watch the stun immunity get nerfed. And DoT spreads removed. And everyone stop playing them so much. Just because sins can kite doesn't mean they're OP. They melt. Extremely fast. Especially when idiots pop all their cooldowns at once.

Okay man, yeah. Everything is running and hiding.




Lol.

Perhaps you should actually play an assassin on a competitive level before you speak. Regs hardly count.

Rage Rage Rage blah blah blah Sins OP nothing can beat them. Paraphrasing nerd rage. Now look here poor little sad shadow/sin haters the hard counter for sins is white damage. Not tech attacks not force attacks. Melee and ranged attacks. Very damn simple. That means ravage railshot ambush (arguably the hardest hitting moves in the game) are not countered by shroud. These moves hit through shroud. Wait the shadow is vulnerable to a type of damage even through his cds?
For the most part YES. Deflection reduces the damage taken by a small amount on these moves but you still hit through it. All you ******* clowns playing dot specs AOE specs crying about OP, lol, its because you have no clue how to play.


Get at me exilove the fact that you jumped on the bandwagon before finding out all the information about the class made me lose all respect i had for you.

We are only strong because mara snipers and mercs arent played as much which have heavy white damage specs. Learn what type of attack you use instead of mashing buttons. Roll a sniper and play MM if you are tired of shadows. Make that your goal, kill all shadow/sins ambush hits for up to 17 18k vs full expt geared players.
Noone plays them because they are considered up(underpowered) and those who switch will struggle because its new just read the tree and tool tips on all your abilities even the passives.

Proof: Watch "(Reloaded) SWTOR Marksman Sniper 3.0 Solo Ranked …" on YouTube
(Reloaded) SWTOR Marksman Sniper 3.0 Solo Ranked …: http://youtu.be/GUDY3xUFwDE