Sorcs are BROKEN!!!

And you have retracted them several times cause they are invalid. In a nutshell you want to see sorcs being brought back to the era that were not suitable. Still people were playing against the odds and have learnt to play the class to high levels, now that things are even of course you are gonna lose cause they higher skill cap than you. So no, your arguments are invalid cause they want to bring back to that state, and this won't happen just because you are whining.

THIS

I have played a Sage/Sorc since day one early access and slogged thru 3 years of being sub par in PVP simply cause I love the class. Now that we are actually viable, and not insta targets for kills, its a giant whine fest. I don't give a rat's *** what they do to Forcequake/Storm cause I don't spec into it anyway, I'm of the opinion that for most its about pumping up epeen numbers and not about burning people down. But to do just about any of the other things people are suggesting in this thread would cripple us to the back of the line again in PVP just to stop the whiners from whining. Especially when most of the whiners don't really grasp the ins and outs of PVP anyway, they just see big numbers at the end of a reg match, even tho they don't understand the story the numbers really tell. The Sage/Sorc with 20% more damage but 50% as many kills. Hell I was in a reg match and saw people complaining about a Sage who had 840k damage to the next highest 600k... and the guy had 3 *********** kills.

So true... And really the only time you need to actually use force storm/quake in a proper combat situation and not a node guarding one is to pressure a healer whose tank and ranged dps are standing right next to him
People who spam force storm/quake all match make me laugh... Then they brag how big their numbers were and they really did nothing all match... Usually the ones that don't LOS either... Have died the most... And haven't healed themselves at all
Even funnier is when they use force storm/quake over and over, while missing out on Crit procs...

True it is bad for them to spam it constantly and i have seen that not everyone does it, but when 2-3 use it at the same time it is crazy. I see someone starts channeling then the others normally join in and 3-5k ticks x3, constant 9-15k to all players getting hit, they have a 30m range on that, how is that not comparable to a smasher?

Easy fix... Don't stand in it... Lol

I agree with this to a point. You shouldn't just stand in force storm. The two problems that can occur is when multiple sorcs are casting force storm or when one sorc just likes to follow you by recasting storm over and over. I don't really care about the latter example as they most likely aren't very good sorcs.

The problem I have with storm is that it is much better than other class soammable aoes. That is the imbalance with force storm. If other classes spammable aoes were as powerful than people wouldn't have a right to complain about force storm, but would have to complain about aoe in general. Problem is force storm is quite a bit more powerful than the others are.

Though I do agree that you should run out of the red circle as soon as you see it.

It is not appreciably better than Suppresive Fire or Sweeping Blasters except when used by Lightning Sorcs.

Which suggests that giving the power a +crit/surge buff as well as a base damage buff in utilities was imprudent.