Sorcs are BROKEN!!!

As concealment operative in 3.0 it is not a matter of whether you can or not, it is a matter that by default you can't lose. And in arenas easiest is to stick to a ling sorc, you can easily shut him down while you can completely counter all the big hitters. And ccing during bastion is exactly the point. The fact you don't realise that this is exactly the point, the fact that you talk about big self-heals (which by the way didn't know I could play a madness/ling hybrid still) but not mentioning that healing is their main dcd given that they have zero damage reduction abilities, the fact that you even suggested at some point that they shouldn't even have barrier (how can I expect you to comprehend why bastion exists after that), the fact that you criticise the mobility of ling that was a spec that was never ever played in ranked arenas, the fact that you play the most broken class in the game (have you seen the video of 4 hatred sins annihilating everyone in group ranked?); well after all these it is pretty clear that you have no clue about the strengths and weaknesses of sorcs.

The worst thing is my main is a Sorc and a Sage and I've been playing both since launch... So many matches I get abused for using a "FOTM" character or told I am unskilled and need to play the easiest class...
Sure there are a lot of people playing FOTM classes... But not many are good... Most are mediocre at best... You can see who the good Sorcs are by looking at how they actually contributed to the match and what their stats are... Those that just stand there and AOE all match to get high dps really don't contribute at all... Personally I usually don't die, have over 900k dps, 400-500k healing and take 400-700k damage... You won't see mediocre players doing that
I've seen the roller coaster of nerfs and buffs for this class... I remember when Sorcs were nearly balanced with other classes... Then nearly all classes got buffs and Sorcs got a left behind and even got a small nerf... This made the class unviable as a main DPS class and was really only useful as a utility class to annoy healers and stop caps
Now that they are in the top 4 of DPS again and are viable... All of a sudden they are OP and FOTM... Instead of calling for nerfs... Some of those classes that got left behind a little should get some buffs or defensive measures to make them more viable and balanced...
There are also some disparities between the top 4... But let me say it is really only the higher skilled players of those classes that you need to be worried about... And if you are playing one of the lower unbalanced classes and are highly skilled, then any of those"OP", "FOTM" mediocre players are easy kills... On my Mara or Merc... Those players die as easy as the rest... Is it a challenge to play against one of the skilled FOTM classes... Sure... But like I had to do with my Sorc for so long after we got nerfed... You just change your game play, tactics and expectations of the role you play

I have said in several posts that hatred is broken. I have never once denied that. Hatred is more broken than pt or any sorc spec. This thread is about sorcs though. Feel free to make a hatred is op thread and I will gladly post in it.

Out of the complete paragraph you commented on the least important bit. /rollseyes

That is because I have already argued the other points several times. Don't care to keep on repeating myself. So I commented on the part we can both agree on. I will not convince you on my stance with sorcs and you will not convince me on yours. It's best to agree to disagree at this point.

Here you go: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=792245

Posted in it as promised.

You haven't argued really anything... I mean saying that ccing a sorc over bastion is not the point, among others, then well, your arguments are invalid. Did you also leave maras uncced during ur cause that's not the point?

I have argued my pont several times. You do not agree. That is fine.

And you have retracted them several times cause they are invalid. In a nutshell you want to see sorcs being brought back to the era that were not suitable. Still people were playing against the odds and have learnt to play the class to high levels, now that things are even of course you are gonna lose cause they higher skill cap than you. So no, your arguments are invalid cause they want to bring back to that state, and this won't happen just because you are whining.