Congratulations. You just killed sm ops

Yay, finally they did it.

If your group is competent at all(yeah I know, good luck finding that in an all pug group) you should have zero problems clearing sm ravagers/ToS in 180/186s. The only thing the new comm gear has more of is endurance and in some cases more main stat, but other than that it's sheer garbage that is barely ok for me to give to my companion let alone for me to actually use it.

I'm just saying give SOME incentive. Walking through Rishi and Yavin gives you a full set (nearly) of 186 gear via basic comms. Start there. That is the baseline that all level 60's will have upon completion. Add decent mods/enhancements of 186/192 ratings available via basic and elites, respectively. It seems like the only reason to go to fleet now is to pick up weeklies and turn in pvp missions. Even pvp have upgraded set bonus gear for running the exact same content/maps. Do something similar for those of us that also enjoy pve content.

I think what they should of done, was raise the old 55 sm ops and scale it to lvl 60 then threw in the two new Ops from 3.0 and I do agree finding a pug group took me 2 hours on the fleet to do the Ravagers and we still didn't make it even after 3 change overs this is a pug group. 5 hours total and as far as we got was still to the second boss in 16m GF puggin.

I got all my elite gear (192's) but now my problem lies with the ultimate coms they really shorten how to obtain them nothing in the weeklies in the daily area and the GF run only or threw running in one of the new op's door.

The reason why I un-subbed was to make a statment am not paying for game to stand around in it where everything around me is basics and am in between and still can't any ultimate's EA really needs to change this so everyone can obtain it, am not saying to make it easier just to make it so everyone can enjoy the group and succeed in it.

My Sage just got level 50 a few weeks ago.

I was surprised hbow hard it was to get him through Black Hole, even with the Campaign gear !

I believe that anyone who does endgame really forgets how hard it is if you have not much for twinking - I had, in fact, only 1 char at level 50+ !

Endgame is the only thing the forum posters here care for; they have already SO many twinks that they don't even realize how it is to have 1-2 chars at level 50 alone !

And now they want everything at level 50 to give LESS rewards !
Aka "those who have will be given more; those who don't have will be taken from" aka "The Matthew Effect".

Here's what I think they should at least consider planning for the long term:

1/ Buff all old 50 & 55 SM ops from EV to DP to 60 (no change in mechanics just straight buffs in HP and damage dealt etc ) when queued for in group finder. That's 7 ops one for every day of the week.

2/ Fix the group finder bolster so that players don't lose their bolster when they exit and re-enter instance or dc.

3/ Create a new operations tier in group finder i.e. "Classic Operations" for players 50-60 to queue for these boosted and bolstered ops. Give 5 ultimate comms for completion and a different op on rotation each day (35 comms in total) .

4/ Make the current operations tier we got exclusive to 60's for ToS and ravagers.


Also something else they should consider but some may not like is:

5/ Consider implementing some way to optionally boost up a phase to 60 via the portrait options for HM or NiM content. Make it so when you boost an old HM/NiM progression op to 60 it drops ultimates and abundant mount/pet/vanity item drops but scale the bosses to be tight for well geared level 60's i.e. for a boosted EV HM the XRR 3 droid would be a really tight DPS + healing race or for gharj not getting out of his pounce would mean insta wipe.

Players who burnt out on the old ops might not like point 5 but the idea behind that is to introduce newer players to the older HM and NiM without being over levelled or over geared for them and experience the raids to how they should truly be.

People keep complaining... but the ultimate commendations was never intended to drop off lvl55 content after 3.0

Also these ultimate commendations are not really worth it..... Ops has not been ruined at all either...

With the new content they should just had given a new type of highend commendations instead though only obtainable from lvl60 content.

But people should look at the conten though with bright eyes.. Ultimate commendations has always been from the highest level content... which before 3.0 was lvl55 content such as SnV, TFB, DP and DF, now we are at the level 60 branch... so the level 60 content as was intended would be able to drop highest level of gear... but really by doing tos and rav you would be getting 192 token gear over time which is much better.

And don't give me the oh noes the new Ops are too tough... I did with one of my alts that had mostly 168 rating token gear and a couple of 180 token gear just fine, so the requirement and difficulty is not of concern at all, it is all about mechanics that people need to get used to.

Also running them as 16man currently make no sense since it seem to be like 8 man drops instead of 16man, but it doesnt really matter because the drops they offer at 8 man is far superior to com rating 198 gear with the exception of the offhands barrel/hilt/armoring.

Maybe you're right...maybe sm ops haven't been ruined. It's just that nobody queues for them, won't join a pug, and many can't complete rav/ToS ( I have completed both in 8sm, but that is only 2 per week.) if nobody runs the content, or those that do has been so drastically reduced that 2 hours is mostly insufficient to throw a pug together, how is that not ruined? In other words, if nobody wants to run 4/6 ops available, why? What would YOU consider ruined??

IMO, what they should do to hopefully re-populate old content is to adjust the "weekly classic operations" weekly.

Basically, instead of done one of the listed ops in hard or nightmare, it should require you to do ANY 3 of the listed ops in any mode.

So, basically make it like Galactic Conflicts where you need 3/3, but change it so you can do it in any mode, not just hard or nightmare.

Nah too faceroll - I like that it forces people to run HM/NiM. Basically it means a chance to pug them at 60 where as that didn't really happen at 55.

What SHOULD happen though is there should a GF option for the HM @ 56+