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How would you rank the four "op/fotm" classes in 3.0 (Sorc, Sin, PT, and Jugg)?

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How would you rank the four "op/fotm" classes in 3.0 (Sorc, Sin, PT, and Jugg)?

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Zez-Kai-Ell
01.09.2015 , 04:53 PM | #181
Quote: Originally Posted by magnashear View Post
you cant have all that immunity and all that control at the same time. Not enough talent points
Like i said most part of the people whining is most likely powertechs, sorcs etc who trow snares like candy and they are only happy as long their class own others no point on try make them understand. Assassin for all the eefts is melee, if he cant approach his target, if he keeps always running away then he cant kill. I hate the answer L2P but in this case its indeed the problem..

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Zez-Kai-Ell
01.09.2015 , 04:54 PM | #182
Quote: Originally Posted by Saikochoro View Post
You can have all that immunity. All you'd have to give up is insta whirlwind. Even without that sins still have the most control of all classes.
They only have 1 stun 4 secs, unless you count lift too but that breaks on damage, oh wait pt have 2 hard stuns wow, but nvm that doesn't count

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Saikochoro
01.09.2015 , 04:57 PM | #183
Quote: Originally Posted by magnashear View Post
Their burst is low. They also parse lower than a lot of other dps.
This is PVP not dummy parses. Try asking your opponent to stand still and do nothing while you attack them. Hatred has more than enough burst for a dot spec.

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Saikochoro
01.09.2015 , 04:58 PM | #184
Quote: Originally Posted by Zez-Kai-Ell View Post
They only have 1 stun 4 secs, unless you count lift too but that breaks on damage, oh wait pt have 2 hard stuns wow, but nvm that doesn't count
Control includes more than just stuns. You should know that.

Electrocute = 4 second stun
Spike = 2 second stun
Force slow = 6 second snare.
Mind trap = 8 second mez from stealth
Whirlwind = 8 second casted mezz (utility can turn it into insta cast and same utility causes it to stun you for 2 seconds if it breaks early)
Overload = forward come knockback (utility can make the knockback also root you for up to 5 seconds)
Low slash = 4 second mez (deception only)
Creeping terror = 2 second root (hatred only)
Whither = 10 second slow (darkness only).
Force lightning/deprivating volts = channeled snare (darkness is really the only one that uses this a lot in PVP).

Every sin can have 7 instant cc effects with an 8th casted. Or 8 instant cc effects leaving the root off knockback. Or 8 instant cc effect if you give up some anti control. You can have full anti control and the first two options in this paragraph.

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Zoom_VI
01.09.2015 , 04:59 PM | #185
Quote: Originally Posted by Zez-Kai-Ell View Post
Like i said most part of the people whining is most likely powertechs, sorcs etc who trow snares like candy and they are only happy as long their class own others no point on try make them understand. Assassin for all the eefts is melee, if he cant approach his target, if he keeps always running away then he cant kill. I hate the answer L2P but in this case its indeed the problem..
You do realize you can get Dark Stability, Shroud of Madness, Emersion, Disjunction, and Shapeless Spirit all in the same build right?
Crinn

Sanity is for the weak minded.

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Zez-Kai-Ell
01.09.2015 , 04:59 PM | #186
Quote: Originally Posted by Saikochoro View Post
This is PVP not dummy parses. Try asking your opponent to stand still and do nothing while you attack them. Hatred has more than enough burst for a dot spec.
on that i agree it does more damage than deception and more survival due the self healing, they made a supposed sustained style to burst.

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Zez-Kai-Ell
01.09.2015 , 05:02 PM | #187
Quote: Originally Posted by Zoom_VI View Post
You do realize you can get Dark Stability, Shroud of Madness, Emersion, Disjunction, and Shapeless Spirit all in the same build right?
And? if you want nerf deflection then nerf pt snares and also from other classes, seems you play most likely Powertech and maybe sorcerer, that would explain your hate for the class

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Zez-Kai-Ell
01.09.2015 , 05:04 PM | #188
Quote: Originally Posted by Saikochoro View Post
Control includes more than just stuns. You should know that.
jezzz, slow and stuns is control, what the part movement impairing effect you don't understood yet?

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Zoom_VI
01.09.2015 , 05:05 PM | #189
Quote: Originally Posted by Zez-Kai-Ell View Post
And? if you want nerf deflection then nerf pt snares and also from other classes, seems you play most likely Powertech and maybe sorcerer, that would explain your hate for the class
Wait you saying I play a Sorc now? Seriously? Wow, just wow.

Also anyone who takes team ranked seriously knows serenity need to come down since its the god spec of ranked right now as far as the DPS slots are concerned.
Crinn

Sanity is for the weak minded.

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Zez-Kai-Ell
01.09.2015 , 05:10 PM | #190
Quote: Originally Posted by Zoom_VI View Post
You do realize you can get Dark Stability, Shroud of Madness, Emersion, Disjunction, and Shapeless Spirit all in the same build right?
You assume everyone takes same utility's.....There is different play styles you know?