Qutiing premade regs..why it's a good idea.

Us premade find great joy even more with ego if we make you leave so feed my ego more please run like a little girl screaming the premade are coming. We find this more fun that we made you leave so we can brag even more thanks

LOL MMO doesn't automatically mean you play with friends and make a groups either. Being immersed in a world where there are others around is part of the experience as well.

I'd love to see how many people would play this game if you took out ALL the people that play on their own most of the time. Why in the heck do you think they have a que system in the first place...It's for people who wan't to log on w/o the inconvenience of having to wait for others. If everyone groups as per your vision of what an MMO is, we wouldn't need a que...

Ok, I'll admit that not all premades are created equal..Not all premades are roflstomp ez comm grabs. Some people do just want to play together for the enjoyment of grouping with friends, whether they are good bad or mediocre.

However, there are also power geeks that do exactly what i said, and it's these people that ruin the experience for others. It's these groups that people that enjoy solo queing remember and state as the reasons they don't que anymore.

ROFL, I think we have a troll here !

MMO does mean that the biggest part of the endgame content has to be done in group.

No point playing a MMO if it's 75% solo 25% group.

For the immersion with people around, solo RPG games call them all NPC. You should stop SWTOR and play KOTOR 1 and 2. This way you would be able to complain about NPC premade killing you.



About your Q system "argument" :

When you play solo with a Q system, you're still in a group in the end.

Q system is only there to allow players to do something else while waiting for a full group on your side and in the other faction, so you can match with a full team and not just 4 guys against 7. In "good" conditions.

Q system is also there to fill the group when there are players missing in a match or to easily replace leaving players like the QQ pug you are.

I guess you are that kind of pug raging when premade is on the other side and saying thank you when a premade team is PLing you, allowing you to win regardless your lack of usefulness.



Just to give you a premade point of view :

When we have 4 no guild pugs with us, knowing that we have 75% chance the pugs are worst than a 8 year old player, we won't leave.

We'll just adapt and watch carefully what they are doing to avoid mistakes and anticipate all their illogical actions.

Cause you know, when you do 2 groups of 4 guild mates, you can be together, in 2 different WZ or against each other team.

We don't choose if there will be full pugs in front of us, and it's not our fault. We can't go 8 guild mates everytime.

You have to know you will always find dumb premade teams happy to stomp pug players, but they have no honor.

I personally like when there is some challenge in front of our premade, instead of having the feeling of hitting in hot butter.

Having only pugs in its team is worst than having a premade in its team, period.

*troll mode on*

Though, you have the apologies of all the premade PvP players, playing a MMO in group without knowing we had to play solo to please some asocial raging newbies like you.

*troll mode off*

I guess we're just making up numbers and accepting loose statements as fact.

I agree that premades aren't the problem. I am all for people grouping and learning to play together. But I also agree that lack of matchmaking is a problem as well. Look how finely tuned PvE instances are, and then compare those to the complete mismatches that pass for pvp. Devs can't do better than that?

Devs don't give a ****, as long as queues are popping. Best thing pugs can do is leave warzones and unsub.

And PVE ques also take much longer to form. PVP players aren't willing to wait 20-40mins at a time for a perfect comp team arena match.

PVP players want fast pops, and the draw back to that is unbalanced teams. However you don't need perfect comp to excel in wz's, it's really only an issue for arena's. Winning most maps often has little to do with the amount of players you killed or the amount of times your team was killed, it's about how well your team covers the objectives. This is what is at the core of why I group for pvp, I want to team with people who want to and know how to achieve the objective and not just there to get the biggest dmg or healing #'s they can as most PUG's do.

I love beating premades with pug groups, it happens quite often. Nothing better then waiting at start and looking round at names of known pvpers (Even then you can lose if other team is as good or better.). The premades I find hard are the 1's made up of players who also solo q as tanks, dps or heals. They can play solo and team, some teams just play in groups so if they hit a team with players just as good they struggle because they need to out number people to beat them.

The solo players are good in their own right but go to another level when premade. Saying that even those premades I have beaten with pugs that had good pug heals and dps.

On my old server I ran premades with my guild that hardly ever lost but we hit ranked 8 v 8 and lost more then we won against 3 guilds.

They had designed prefect team mixs and we were just playing our mains but when we q'd with another guild we won most matches because we were not matched with those 3 top guilds.(results showed we were not elite just good, not top of the pile.)

After coming back from a long break I have avoided premaking because I m enjoying pugging. Its a rare premade I run into that is unbeatable. I will lose to them in pugs 1 or 2 times then get matched with a good pug or premade from our faction then stomp them.

I have found the line between winning and losing is fine. You change 1 class or player and next match almost same teams, results are different.

So like posts before me have pointed out there are a very small number of great premades and making all q against them will burst other premades ego's and could make them quit the game.

If you are losing a lot of games in a row get on a alt and play low level pvp or log and play at another time. You could be face rolling 10 games. You going to come on forums and make a post saying I m to good, make me only q against good players as I ve just won 10 games in a row?

Or that will make you believe the game is balanced because you win all the time and as most gamers think they are great, they only lose if something is broken.

And if you quit, you are leaving the mess you made ( Yes with the other members of your team but you are to blame as well.)

So some poor person gets a pop for a half done game that wasn't their fault. Just suck it up, take the lose and move on. Who knows next game it could be you stomping the other team.

If you run into the same premade over and over that are making you rage just log after the match. Take the comms and move on.