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lets talk Socerer's! Seriously, no hat just realy come on now?

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lets talk Socerer's! Seriously, no hat just realy come on now?

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Emperor_Troll
12.30.2014 , 10:15 AM | #131
Quote: Originally Posted by MarcoMontana View Post
So your fix is for our entire team to focus the Sorcerer because they're so powerful, and prevent them from doing massive DPS, CC, by ignoring the rest of their team?


The fact you even typed that, speaks volumes about the Sorcerers over toning! Sorceres aren't powerful just have your whole team focus them and they will die........... Sigh!
where did (s)he say focus with a team?

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Vodrin
12.30.2014 , 10:19 AM | #132
Quote: Originally Posted by Loxei View Post
As a sorc I have issues with PTs and Assassins so if we are getting nerfed I want them to get nerfed as well. And if these classes have problems with other classes they should get nerfed as well. And voila, we are at patch 2.9 again.
Both of these should be nerfed, although the only nerf PT should get is an increased ICD on shoulder cannons.

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mmmbuddah
12.30.2014 , 11:09 AM | #133
Then the solution is..............buff all classes to the point where they can compete with sorc, cuz I can tell you right now, trying to kill a sorc as a commando is worse than pulling teeth without pain killers, although as a sage I can melt commandos and mercs to bits in no time flat.

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Vodrin
12.30.2014 , 11:16 AM | #134
Quote: Originally Posted by mmmbuddah View Post
Then the solution is..............buff all classes to the point where they can compete with sorc, cuz I can tell you right now, trying to kill a sorc as a commando is worse than pulling teeth without pain killers, although as a sage I can melt commandos and mercs to bits in no time flat.
Wait a minute. If one or two classes are overpowered is it easier to nerf them or buff all the rest?

Answer is it is much easier to nerf the overpowered without seriously screwing up balance. There are more underpowered than overpowered AC's right now. Adjusting the OP down makes more sense than trying to overbuff everyone else.

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Silcalm
12.30.2014 , 11:57 AM | #135
there are a few character which are to strong:

sorc as heal and dps range spec in comparison to the other 2 ranged classes.
they are to agile with running around and cast.
pt tank in comparison to the other tanks (played a ranked (mainly melee) and the pt tank had 200k dmg and the other groups tank only had 50k and as info the dps of the dps was between 180-350k )
assas should also be nerfed ( to strong defense CD's with phasewalk is possible in stun 12 sec cc immunity and shroud and movement purge....)

the two worst classes in the game at the moment are snipers and maros

my thought to calance in general:

only heal spec has heals!!! no dps class/spec could heal
ranged with big hits must cast ( like sniper) and shouldn't be mobile so you can counter with LOS
tanks must not be near with the dmg like the dps classes
reduce the cooldown of the medipak to 30 seconds.

but in regards some classes are balanced
like sniper:
sitting turret with cast and no healing capability puts out great numbers
or maro.

but i wonder why BW nerfed the Burst classes and buffed the dot specs?
spreading uncleansable dots? but in the other hands decreased the dmg of burst classes ( the spike)

for example assa:

dot has the same burst and more sustained dmg than the burst spec...... its only silly

the only viable burst spec is ap pt

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mmmbuddah
12.30.2014 , 12:17 PM | #136
Quote: Originally Posted by Vodrin View Post
Wait a minute. If one or two classes are overpowered is it easier to nerf them or buff all the rest?

Answer is it is much easier to nerf the overpowered without seriously screwing up balance. There are more underpowered than overpowered AC's right now. Adjusting the OP down makes more sense than trying to overbuff everyone else.
As long as the classes perform on paar with each other, fine, but right now my Commando, even with 168 pvp gear and 186 augs is still not doing the damage that sage, shadow, sniper, operative, and juggernaut do.

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MarcoMontana
12.30.2014 , 12:25 PM | #137
I think Sorc / Sage need some toning in either Survival, Damage, Healing, CC because right now they got the cream of the crop in almost all categories.

The lower classes that lack survival or just die because they cannot do enough damage should be slightly toned upward in damage. Most the time I see classes just dying to attrition the other class having more options and more damage just outlasting the lower tier classes that just don't have the mechanics to win!

Tank classes should be toned in either better Damage mitigation and lower damage, or higher damage but lower Damage mitigation because right now tanks also Sins, PT, Juggs come to mind can have really good Defensive great mobility and burst which defeats the purpose of DPS classes as they just don't have that kind of tool box...

Healers are hard to kill but killable so thats good.

I think all Bolstering should stop at level 50! Once you're 50 you've got a good arsenal of passives and abilities that already makes you a force to be reckoned with against level 10-40+ level players that have low level abilities no passives and poor gear bolstered to just have higher hp and a harder basic attack...

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warstory
12.30.2014 , 12:29 PM | #138
I have yet to be fully geared but so far staying alive in solo ranked is troublesome. Shadows give lots of problems
"Surely you know I could kill you just as easily with my lightsaber as I could with the force "

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ClockworkSoldier
12.30.2014 , 01:29 PM | #139
Lol so many trolls saying sorc/sage is the cream of the crop... how wrong can you be???? This is a L2P thread people who are complaining are clearly clickers..

Bioware did a great job this time at bringing more classes up to the same level, although there are still a few that need tweaks. Sorc/Sage is not one of them.

And what class does the person who started this thread play???

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Silcalm
12.30.2014 , 02:03 PM | #140
Quote: Originally Posted by ClockworkSoldier View Post
Lol so many trolls saying sorc/sage is the cream of the crop... how wrong can you be???? This is a L2P thread people who are complaining are clearly clickers..

Bioware did a great job this time at bringing more classes up to the same level, although there are still a few that need tweaks. Sorc/Sage is not one of them.

And what class does the person who started this thread play???
you playing a sorc thats clear but ok lets keep going after 3.1 there are only dps assa dps sorc and tank pts all other classe will go instinct in pvp....
80% of the player on my server in pvp are assas and sorc