lets talk Socerer's! Seriously, no hat just realy come on now?

It's always the same. They see the big numbers at the end of 15min Voidstar zerg and then immediately assume the class with the highest overall damage dealt must be OP - unless they play that very same class, then the guy doing better than themselves is obviously cheating (but that's a different story).

What those numbers fail to tell and most people don't ask is how those were accrued. Was it single target dps or Aoe dps? Was it burst or was it DoT? Knowing how those big numbers are accrued is immensely important when judging whether a classes damage really is OP or not.

After having seen those big numbers, and not asking how they came to be, people then tend to think anything about this class got to be OP - especially after losing a 1v1 against that class. Afterall if you lose to this class, that class has to be overpowered, because it cannot be that your skill is just too bad for you to beat that class.

To pick up what Ancestry said, let me put it this way: The only class that can complain about the Sorc's / Sage's ability to kite is the Marauder. But then again the Marauder's can complain about any classes kiting abilities! For the other classes there is really no reason to complain about the Sorc / Sage kite abilities, especially not as Jugg, Sin, PT, or Oper. If you play with one of those classes against a sorc / sage and you lose then it is purely a skill issue but not a balance issue on your side.

Everyone can debate and have an opinion. One does not need to be a certain class. These claims hold more truth when they also come from those that switched to sorc/sage and have experienced , first hand, how amazing they are currently.

Either way, yes we can have our opinions.

While sorcs are abit op. So are sins, juggs and pt. You can still be a whiny scrub.

Thank you . I'm inclined to agree with what you said there.

http://i.imgur.com/jqMaO72.jpg
First game was a void star, did not screen cap it as someone mentioned void stars seem not to count for their long running average times.

This was a hut ball. Majority on our team was a sage. As mentioned before this is what I encounter often as people are aware of how good they are now.

I see this all the time now as well. Last couple matches were nearly ALL PTs and Sorcerers on the enemy team. 3 matches in a row, different people. I mean, if that's not a sign. There was an operative and assassin thrown in for good measure occasionally.

Yup, i also find it funny that the debate quickly died when proof was provided.

Eh...Sage/Sorc has been the most popular class since day one. Even when they sucked the warzones were full of them so its not really a sign of "massive rerolling."

they were popular day one, then things balanced out and changed with different imbalances. Example when smash was god like you would often see 3 to 4 smashers a team instead of what we see now which is 3 to 4 sage/sorc or more a team.

I agree sorcs were very popular on launch. To say that today's popularity is simply caused by the launch 3 years ago and not class balance? that's something I disagree with.

Da proof man, Da proof! Now it's over Sorce, Sage will get there nerf, no more debate! Da proof was like a boomb and now all mele classes can celebrate!