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lets talk Socerer's! Seriously, no hat just realy come on now?

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lets talk Socerer's! Seriously, no hat just realy come on now?

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mmmbuddah
12.28.2014 , 11:18 AM | #51
Quote: Originally Posted by Emperor_Troll View Post
Actually you do need to provide factual proof (best with unedited videos and recorded streams against competent players in all pvp modes) to the developers and intelligent players because they don't work off of hearsay, screenshots or board stats. Anything short of doing these shows nothing but a whine and cry forum post from certain player who like to cherry pick information because they are subpar at playing their class.

You want sages and sorcerers nerfed hard? Then you need to provide unequivocal proof (again unedited videos and streams against competent players in all pvp modes) and documented evidence that sages and sorcerers are op/faceroll easy/unkillable/gods... against every other class in every scenario particularly solo (that means without hiding behind a team to hold you up).
No, all the PvP crew in BW needs to do is play the game as a merc, then as a sorc, and they will see right away that sorc is super ridiculous omg baby jesus EEEEzzzZZZZ mode.

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DomiSotto
12.28.2014 , 11:47 AM | #52
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Just got out of a game where their whole team was sorcs with the exception of one marauder. In the three years I played this game I never saw a full team of only one class.
I played a match with 6 Shadows and a Scoundrel. Was not much left for me to do but carry nodes with my Hold the Line. To be honest, Assassins are still far scarier for me than the Sorcs.
Deal.

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jenlen
12.28.2014 , 11:54 AM | #53
Quote: Originally Posted by Ghost_Spectre View Post
Exactly...or better to say, 'selective' memory?

Yes, this is exactly what these crying whiners want. They want the EASY kills to pad their stats in a Warzone. They don't want to fight the heavy hitters. They'd rather take out the easy targets than WORK for their kills. Like flowing water, these QQ artists look for the path of least resistance.

Newsflash! Sages/Sorcs are where they are at now because of how much BW screwed them over with 1.2 and did nothing to help them until 2.0 and that wasn't enough. And even then they were still easily killed, yet people WHINED about them then. Now with 3.0 these unskilled DPS artists are coming out of the wood work crying because they now face a class that isn't easy to kill anymore. It took these developers 3 years to finally admit they screwed up. And the QQ artists are unhappy now because they can't have easy victories.

*** THIS!!!! ****

Very well said! I've said much the same myself many times when I see people in here raging and whining about "OP SORCS OMG BIOWARE NERF NAO PLZ PLZ PLZ"

The whiners do not want balance. They want easy kills with no possible chance that their prey can fight back or do any damage.

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HaLeX
12.28.2014 , 12:22 PM | #54
Sorcs are absolutely dominating regs. I've been in several matches where 3 or more sorcs put up 2.5-3 million plus dps and over 425k heals. The next highest class for dps was 1.5 million. Yea it was a turtle match, but still, the output is just huge. I suspect they will be top 2 in arenas as well.
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Lattervane
12.28.2014 , 12:56 PM | #55
Quote: Originally Posted by jenlen View Post
*** THIS!!!! ****

Very well said! I've said much the same myself many times when I see people in here raging and whining about "OP SORCS OMG BIOWARE NERF NAO PLZ PLZ PLZ"

The whiners do not want balance. They want easy kills with no possible chance that their prey can fight back or do any damage.

I wouldn't care if sorcs stayed the same so long gone as they make other classes equal.. Specifically mercs and snipers. Everything is relative and compared to the other classes sorc is vastly superior. So keep sorcs the same and buff the weaker classes or keep the weaker classes the same and nerf sorc.

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Raansu
12.28.2014 , 02:08 PM | #56
Quote: Originally Posted by Lattervane View Post
I wouldn't care if sorcs stayed the same so long gone as they make other classes equal.. Specifically mercs and snipers. Everything is relative and compared to the other classes sorc is vastly superior. So keep sorcs the same and buff the weaker classes or keep the weaker classes the same and nerf sorc.
I'd like to see sorcs lose some of their kiting utility. Right now its just silly.

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12.28.2014 , 02:12 PM | #57
Quote: Originally Posted by Raansu View Post
I'd like to see sorcs lose some of their kiting utility. Right now its just silly.
Yes, but after beeing nerfed pt/juggs and sins, than u can nerf us
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DeLaaNie
12.28.2014 , 02:52 PM | #58
Quote: Originally Posted by Emperor_Troll View Post
I challenge you (or anyone else making claims that sages/sorcerers are op/easy mode/gods/unkillable) to run a twitch stream and make a video library to show your sage/sorcerer face rolling people in solo, ranked, 4v4 and 1v1 duels as proof of your claims.

I would particularly like to see you (or anyone else for that matter) dominating against competent players solo (solo means without a team to protect your squishy and non-bursty backside).
You really need to stop, lad. Maybe you haven't realized this, but PvP is filled with nothing but animals and cowards. These people do nothing but reiterate the same nonsense being spewed back and forth on the forum just to make themselves seem cool. Haven't you noticed by now they have a Band-Aid for every wound?

Why is it that they claim a Sorcerer is so supreme yet they cannot show a video of themselves displaying such? Why is it they cannot show a screencap of a Sorcerer putting out 1.6 million damage and around 700,000 in heals? Oh that's right, the scoreboard after a fight doesn't mean anything (yet it is all they talk about).

I often find it funny that they make up and exaggerate all of these claims about certain classes and yet they are the first ones to hop on said class because they are pathetic and cannot stick to one thing. Not only that, they think that sitting on a forum and making calculations means they know how to play, yet I've never seen a single video posted here showing how good they are and how easy it is to kill such and such.

These are also the same kind of people who think they are hot **** when they have a team backing them up, and quite simply, you are wasting your time with these, how shall I put this, undesirables.

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Dragonexadon
12.28.2014 , 03:01 PM | #59
Quote: Originally Posted by jenlen View Post
*** THIS!!!! ****

Very well said! I've said much the same myself many times when I see people in here raging and whining about "OP SORCS OMG BIOWARE NERF NAO PLZ PLZ PLZ"

The whiners do not want balance. They want easy kills with no possible chance that their prey can fight back or do any damage.
No, people want balance. People that want easy kills are all rolling a sorc/sage now with several in my guild doing just that for the easy faceroll.
One of our best sents decided to change a few days ago and, with no pvp gear, tops the damage charts every warzone. It is a common trend to roll to the new class that is over powered and it is clear to see it going on.

To say that "whiners don't really want balance!" is just not true. We could all easily roll a sage/sorc (like the majority are) but rather see a game that is populated with more then just sorc fest in 8v8s.
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Raansu
12.28.2014 , 03:07 PM | #60
Quote: Originally Posted by Dragonexadon View Post
No, people want balance. People that want easy kills are all rolling a sorc/sage now with several in my guild doing just that for the easy faceroll.
One of our best sents decided to change a few days ago and, with no pvp gear, tops the damage charts every warzone. It is a common trend to roll to the new class that is over powered and it is clear to see it going on.

To say that "whiners don't really want balance!" is just not true. We could all easily roll a sage/sorc (like the majority are) but rather see a game that is populated with more then just sorc fest in 8v8s.
I don't necessarily think sorcs are OP at all. The only thing I feel is too strong is their ability to kite. It's just too easy.