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lets talk Socerer's! Seriously, no hat just realy come on now?

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lets talk Socerer's! Seriously, no hat just realy come on now?

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AlrikFassbauer
12.27.2014 , 06:51 PM | #21
Quote: Originally Posted by JackNader View Post
People have horrible memories.

This is a summary of what has transpired with barrier.

Sorcs without barrier - Focused and killed really damn fast. Bioware responded and gave them barrier..

Sorcs with barrier - People continued to focus sorcerers until they barrier. Everyone tunneling that sorcerer simply stood right next to them until their force barrier dropped and then lobbed their execute and the sorcerer died anyway. Bioware responded and gave them enduring bastion.

Sorcerers with barrier and enduring bastion - People start crying that barrier + bastion is overpowered and we need to go back to one of the above.
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Ghost_Spectre
12.27.2014 , 08:22 PM | #22
Quote: Originally Posted by JackNader View Post
People have horrible memories.
Exactly...or better to say, 'selective' memory?
Quote: Originally Posted by JackNader View Post
Sorcerers with barrier and enduring bastion - People start crying that barrier + bastion is overpowered and we need to go back to one of the above.
Yes, this is exactly what these crying whiners want. They want the EASY kills to pad their stats in a Warzone. They don't want to fight the heavy hitters. They'd rather take out the easy targets than WORK for their kills. Like flowing water, these QQ artists look for the path of least resistance.

Newsflash! Sages/Sorcs are where they are at now because of how much BW screwed them over with 1.2 and did nothing to help them until 2.0 and that wasn't enough. And even then they were still easily killed, yet people WHINED about them then. Now with 3.0 these unskilled DPS artists are coming out of the wood work crying because they now face a class that isn't easy to kill anymore. It took these developers 3 years to finally admit they screwed up. And the QQ artists are unhappy now because they can't have easy victories.
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12.27.2014 , 08:32 PM | #23
Quote: Originally Posted by JackNader View Post
People have horrible memories.

This is a summary of what has transpired with barrier.

Sorcs without barrier - Focused and killed really damn fast. Bioware responded and gave them barrier..

Sorcs with barrier - People continued to focus sorcerers until they barrier. Everyone tunneling that sorcerer simply stood right next to them until their force barrier dropped and then lobbed their execute and the sorcerer died anyway. Bioware responded and gave them enduring bastion.

Sorcerers with barrier and enduring bastion - People start crying that barrier + bastion is overpowered and we need to go back to one of the above.
It's not just barrier that is the problem. With 3.0 it's the gain of all the survival utilities, infinite force, extreme mobility and ridiculous damage/healing that puts the class completely over the top.
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Csillagkari
12.27.2014 , 08:39 PM | #24
Quote: Originally Posted by MarcoMontana View Post

Lets be real people this is ridiculous!
OK, I will be real this time!
You know you don't have to post anything, just make a thread, and from your avatar BW will know that some one calling for nerf of all classes beside Jug and Mara but mostly that bastard Sage, Sorc who is always running, anoying everyone! Why he is running, why he is cc us??? Why don't he face to face us???

By the way guys, my favorite sentance if I duel a melee class with my Sage: " Why are you running always?! You Sages are always just running like pusys"

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HanSollo
12.27.2014 , 09:45 PM | #25
Quote: Originally Posted by lpsmash View Post
It seems to me like you do mind sorcs having massive damage and CC. The barrier is clearly not a problem, I'm not sure why there are so many complaints about it as of late. The sorc is squishy as hell; ravage + impale + force scream would probably kill him without the barrier.
First of all It won't that combo does TOPS 35k damage and that's if everything crits and that's a geared sent vs non-geared sorc.

Second good luck landing that in a PvP environment stand still for 4 seconds not to mention the Sorc has an innumerable amount of ways to counter this from the start.

Thirdly they are not "squishy as hell" How much hp does Force Armor give now? 7 or 8k I'd wager, getting 2 of those in 1 fight increases your HP pool by 30% and that's a short fight usually can get 3 in even at 7k thats 21k HP compared to my Sent that is in full exhumed gear has 45k hp, that's almost a 50% HP increase over a melee class with slightly better armor so please don't tell me that your squishy until you can get pulled stunned and melted in under 4 seconds, and before you say "I can" that isn't where you belong you don't belong in melee range of some one your attacking where as a Sent is SUPPOSED to be in the thick of it with other classes that have heavy armor.

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Lampwrecker
12.27.2014 , 09:54 PM | #26
Make force barrier a cast so I can interrupt it and keep it the same other then that nerf aoe damage and increase single target damage. Get rid of spreadable dots this was a bad idea it is free damage for non targets its an win button with out ever targeting.

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handoftheking
12.27.2014 , 10:03 PM | #27
Well I just got back into this game as a commando with weak defensive cds it sorta bums me out they get that bubble.
I'm not one who likes to complain about op anything though. Unless it's restro Druids in bc I still hate them ha
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dragospastiu
12.27.2014 , 10:10 PM | #28
The people defending sorcs are simply laughable and plain ridiculous.
Everybody and their mothers plays a sorc now and they dominate the charts in both DPS and healing.
Gimme a break and get real. Easy kills? They are harder to kill than most classes.
Commandos, gunslingers and sentinels would like to have a word with you.
Keep dreaming, they are gonna get nerfed soon, it's an obtuse class and pisses everyone off, except said sorcs (which is mostly everyone).

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Lampwrecker
12.27.2014 , 10:14 PM | #29
Quote: Originally Posted by dragospastiu View Post
The people defending sorcs are simply laughable and plain ridiculous.
Everybody and their mothers plays a sorc now and they dominate the charts in both DPS and healing.
Gimme a break and get real. Easy kills? They are harder to kill than most classes.
Commandos, gunslingers and sentinels would like to have a word with you.
Keep dreaming, they are gonna get nerfed soon, it's an obtuse class and pisses everyone off, except said sorcs (which is mostly everyone).
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Saikochoro
12.28.2014 , 12:09 AM | #30
Quote: Originally Posted by Lampwrecker View Post
Make force barrier a cast so I can interrupt it and keep it the same other then that nerf aoe damage and increase single target damage. Get rid of spreadable dots this was a bad idea it is free damage for non targets its an win button with out ever targeting.
I dont think force barrier needs to go away completely. Nor should it have a cast. Enduring bastion needs to go as well as interrupt immunity and passive healing in bubble. Also shouldn't be able to be healed in bubble. It should be an anti focus button and thats it. They have enough other tools to deal with other things.

The dot spreading in general was a terrible idea by the devs. I dont know what they were thinking. its not just sorcs, but all dot classes. They didnt need to let them spread dots and have them uncleansible. That is just stupid. They should have been given dot protection like what lethality had. When dots are cleansed a weaker version of the dot is still there. That would have been more than enough.