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lets talk Socerer's! Seriously, no hat just realy come on now?

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lets talk Socerer's! Seriously, no hat just realy come on now?

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lpsmash
12.27.2014 , 11:18 AM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by MarcoMontana View Post
Ok, I don't mind Sorcerers having massive Damage and CC............

However I do mind when Sorcerers have massive Damage, CC, AND an Immunity bubble? there is no reason any class should have all the candy in the basket!

If they're to get immunity bubbles, than they should have no force after it, and cannot heal also!

Lets be real people this is ridiculous!
It seems to me like you do mind sorcs having massive damage and CC. The barrier is clearly not a problem, I'm not sure why there are so many complaints about it as of late. The sorc is squishy as hell; ravage + impale + force scream would probably kill him without the barrier.

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DomiSotto
12.27.2014 , 11:26 AM | #12
You bubble and stand very still being particularly useful. You hope they have an ADD. They move out and drop an AoE on you. Then, it's on a cool down for the rest of the zone. Honestly.... when I bubble, what I want is to get the heck out, not to stay there staring down a couple of melees through the shiny bubble. Cause I can heal them to death once the bubble drops off. Yep. That's what I am gonna do. Or, maybe... maybe... Oh, yes! I have 5 offensive spells, and I am gonna use them!!!
Deal.

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alexsamma
12.27.2014 , 11:35 AM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by MarcoMontana View Post
The classes you mention have weaknesses beyond that of their defensive cds. Also their not full hp, full resource, after such albeit escaping with maybe a fraction of hp left! The Sorcerer just gets a free immunity god mode to do what they please then come back full hp and ready to rock n roll all over again!
Actually you're wrong, if you use barrier at a sliver of hp and sit in it for the full duration you will come out with roughly 60% hp (outside of a warzone with no trauma I end up at 63%)

You can opt to burst through enduring bastion if you want to stop the self heals.

Enduring bastion with the corrupted barrier utility is strong, but it's not nearly as strong as people make it out to be.

Sorcs have weaknesses beyond barrier, it's called focus the squishy sorc and don't let him free cast, outside of instant procs (in lt) or dots (in madness) the sorc is going to be doing very little damage.

Honestly, as someone who mained a jugg last season I think it's silly that you believe a sorc's barrier is stronger than ED and the arsenal of short CD DCD's that juggs have available.

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JFoxstride
12.27.2014 , 11:41 AM | #14
... Because comparing DCDs of a caster and the tankiest tank in the game makes total sense.

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Master-Nala
12.27.2014 , 12:04 PM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by JFoxstride View Post
Why do sorc fanboys keep defending bubble saying "it's a self-CC"?
It's NOT a self-CC. You can stop it any time you want, you are completely invulnerable while it's up...
That's not a CC or a stun.
And if you stop it early Bastion is much weaker. I'm so sick of the Sorcerer whining. You guys think they are so invincible, play one and learn for yourself why Force Barrier exists. You all just want Sorcs/Sages to go back to being free kills.

You want stun bubble gone, fine. Electric Bindings can go too, but Barrier is our escape. Most classes have them.
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Master-Nala
12.27.2014 , 12:05 PM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by JFoxstride View Post
... Because comparing DCDs of a caster and the tankiest tank in the game makes total sense.
ED is better for DPS Juggernauts. The person you quoted said nothing about tanks, DPS Juggs have nearly as many DCDs and great, easy damage. This has nothing to do with tanks.
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Saikochoro
12.27.2014 , 02:33 PM | #17
I have played sorcerer. You guys are acting the same why that juggs did with enraged defense. Barrier at inception was fine, but with all the other buffs it has it is beyond stupid. You have many other tools to survive. Saying sorcs are susceptible to focus fire is also a stupid excuse as many other classes are also susceptible. I have no problems surviving on my sorcerer and it isn't even my main. It's stupid how faceroll easy the class is. Those defending it are just deluding themselves into thinking they are fine. And if ravage + impale is killing you...then you are an absolutely terrible sorcerer.

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JackNader
12.27.2014 , 06:30 PM | #18
People have horrible memories.

This is a summary of what has transpired with barrier.

Sorcs without barrier - Focused and killed really damn fast. Bioware responded and gave them barrier..

Sorcs with barrier - People continued to focus sorcerers until they barrier. Everyone tunneling that sorcerer simply stood right next to them until their force barrier dropped and then lobbed their execute and the sorcerer died anyway. Bioware responded and gave them enduring bastion.

Sorcerers with barrier and enduring bastion - People start crying that barrier + bastion is overpowered and we need to go back to one of the above.

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Emperor_Troll
12.27.2014 , 06:35 PM | #19
Quote: Originally Posted by Saikochoro View Post
I have played sorcerer. You guys are acting the same why that juggs did with enraged defense. Barrier at inception was fine, but with all the other buffs it has it is beyond stupid. You have many other tools to survive. Saying sorcs are susceptible to focus fire is also a stupid excuse as many other classes are also susceptible. I have no problems surviving on my sorcerer and it isn't even my main. It's stupid how faceroll easy the class is. Those defending it are just deluding themselves into thinking they are fine. And if ravage + impale is killing you...then you are an absolutely terrible sorcerer.
I challenge you (or anyone else making claims that sorcerers are op) to run a twitch stream and show your sorcerer face rolling people in solo, ranked and 4v4 as proof of your claims. Feel free to run a sage stream as well.

I would particularly like to see you dominating players (without a team to back your squishy and non-bursty butt) when you face off solo against classes that are smacking you around with 10k-15k bursts.

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ace_boogie
12.27.2014 , 06:45 PM | #20
Quote: Originally Posted by JackNader View Post
People have horrible memories.

This is a summary of what has transpired with barrier.

Sorcs without barrier - Focused and killed really damn fast. Bioware responded and gave them barrier..

Sorcs with barrier - People continued to focus sorcerers until they barrier. Everyone tunneling that sorcerer simply stood right next to them until their force barrier dropped and then lobbed their execute and the sorcerer died anyway. Bioware responded and gave them enduring bastion.

Sorcerers with barrier and enduring bastion - People start crying that barrier + bastion is overpowered and we need to go back to one of the above.
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