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Rydarus' 4.0+ Vigilance/Vengeance Guide on Dulfy

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Rydarus' 4.0+ Vigilance/Vengeance Guide on Dulfy

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MASOLIZ
12.08.2014 , 09:44 AM | #21
Veng plz didn't read it all so maybe I missed it but don't play pub much so no max lvl toons there, when you get around to it, it'd be awesome
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Joran-Koon
12.08.2014 , 10:58 AM | #22
Quote: Originally Posted by MASOLIZ View Post
Veng plz didn't read it all so maybe I missed it but don't play pub much so no max lvl toons there, when you get around to it, it'd be awesome
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Only Guardian side is being worked on ATM this weekend jugg will be finished.
Don't think it's done yet bro.
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GrandLordMenace
12.08.2014 , 11:13 AM | #23
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Don't think it's done yet bro.
I finished the rough draft which is infact already up there, by next weekend the tables that show abilities properly in sequence will be done.
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MASOLIZ
12.08.2014 , 01:10 PM | #24
Quote: Originally Posted by GrandLordMenace View Post
I finished the rough draft which is infact already up there, by next weekend the tables that show abilities properly in sequence will be done.
Oh no rush, just meant when you get around to it is all
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GrandLordMenace
12.08.2014 , 01:25 PM | #25
Quote: Originally Posted by MASOLIZ View Post
Oh no rush, just meant when you get around to it is all
Priority system and opener is already up there.

In regards to the opener, I am fully aware of the opener that uses sundering strike instead of Combat Focus, don't necessarily like it and even with the new set bonus I was doing more with a traditional opener, and I honestly don't think the 2% boost to damage is significant enough to be worth delaying hard hitters for, especially since relics are so RNGish to proc, and if they proc early in that opener you can only get 1 real ability inside it.
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SwordEmpire
12.08.2014 , 01:44 PM | #26
To anyone who has tested alacrity, have you noticed getting keening procs more consistently? While I would hate to have to lose more surge, I'm debating if its worth the hit to normalize my rotation better.
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GrandLordMenace
12.08.2014 , 02:48 PM | #27
Quote: Originally Posted by SwordEmpire View Post
To anyone who has tested alacrity, have you noticed getting keening procs more consistently? While I would hate to have to lose more surge, I'm debating if its worth the hit to normalize my rotation better.
Alacrity was tested fairly thoroughly in the making of the guide.

A fully augmented and enhancemented (non accuracy anyway) alacrity build yields a DPS loss of roughly 200 from 192s compared to a traditional high mainstat, surge, and power build, so while it's not optimal, it certainly isn't horrifyingly terrible.

I don't expect alacrity to be viable for us, not because the stat is bad, but because any downtime in a real raid means that the alacrity is essentially wasted.
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Vanilleawre
12.10.2014 , 11:11 AM | #28
Can you use the Vigilance build for a new character?

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GrandLordMenace
12.11.2014 , 04:57 PM | #29
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Can you use the Vigilance build for a new character?
Yes???
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MozezKim
12.11.2014 , 07:38 PM | #30
Hey Rydarus, I just wanted to thank you for taking the time to make this excellent guide. I improved a lot by following your guide and advice on the vigilance discipline.

One thing I noticed though is that Vigilant Thrust has a 9 second cooldown and not 6. Other than that, I found this guide immensely helpful.

Once again, thank you for creating this awesome guide!