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Kemosobe
12.26.2011 , 04:34 PM | #81
Quote: Originally Posted by carnac_fett View Post
Unfortunately, I doubt any new MMOs will go back to the 2001-era style, so I would stick to those if you want old-school mechanics.
I will push your own words back on you, if you want all these mechanics in SWTOR simply because w/e MMO you came from has them, go back to that MMO seeing as SWTOR is NOT that MMO and (hopefully) never will be.
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Gavin_Darkl
12.26.2011 , 04:36 PM | #82
There will be Dual spec within your AC. Bioware already said this. However there will be no AC dual specs.

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Cellanoid
12.26.2011 , 04:36 PM | #83
I fully support the idea of dual-speccing inside of the same AC. I don't even care if they made it completely free as soon as you hit level 10.

I just hope that the devs do not go and make Dual-AC's.
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GratuaCuun
12.26.2011 , 04:37 PM | #84
We already CAN dual-spec, tank/dps healer/tank healer/dps... not ALL classes can do this, but if that's your fair then play THOSE classes

problem solved
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Zironic
12.26.2011 , 04:38 PM | #85
Quote: Originally Posted by GratuaCuun View Post
We already CAN dual-spec, tank/dps healer/tank healer/dps... not ALL classes can do this, but if that's your fair then play THOSE classes

problem solved
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Jett-Rinn
12.26.2011 , 04:38 PM | #86
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Dual Spec isn't needed at all...WoW is a failed model. Go back to WoW for your dual spec.
I agree.
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carnac_fett
12.26.2011 , 04:39 PM | #87
Quote: Originally Posted by Kemosobe View Post
I will push your own words back on you, if you want all these mechanics in SWTOR simply because w/e MMO you came from has them, go back to that MMO seeing as SWTOR is NOT that MMO and (hopefully) never will be.
I'm not going back, because I enjoy the game, and I'm willing to spend a few months without a dual spec feature while waiting for Bioware to finish developing it.

Also, I don't want dual specs just because all modern MMOs have them, I want dual specs because they are a good feature that I have come to expect from any MMO released after 2003.

Someone who enjoys cars with air conditioning in them doesn't need to go back and buy a 2011 model. The 2012 models will have them as well. It's the people that want cars without air conditioning that need to go back to 1950s-era cars, instead of demanding that new models be released without AC.
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Pingor
12.26.2011 , 04:39 PM | #88
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really interesting, now wheres the part why dualspec is bad and what have 10y old mmos have to do wit it?
I wasnt the one who stated that however the point they meant was duel spec has only been around for a couple of years in WoW and never existed before. It was something WoW did to cater to the casual masses which caused many original players to leave as decisions made to cater to the casuals started to ruin the game and they dont want to see the same happen here.
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carnac_fett
12.26.2011 , 04:41 PM | #89
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I wasnt the one who stated that however the point they meant was duel spec has only been around for a couple of years in WoW and never existed before. It was something WoW did to cater to the casual masses which caused many original players to leave as decisions made to cater to the casuals started to ruin the game and they dont want to see the same happen here.
Dual-spec didn't 'ruin' WoW.

The biggest detriment to WoW during the Wrath era was the lack of difficulty in heroic dungeons.

Giving players more freedom doesn't ruin a game, making the game so easy it requires zero thought or tactics ruins a game.

Blizzard shot themselves in the foot twice - first, by making Wrath so difficult it scared off a lot of the more hardcore, and then overcompensating with Cataclysm's difficulty at launch, which scared off a lot of the casuals that were left.
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Zironic
12.26.2011 , 04:45 PM | #90
Quote: Originally Posted by Pingor View Post
I wasnt the one who stated that however the point they meant was duel spec has only been around for a couple of years in WoW and never existed before. It was something WoW did to cater to the casual masses which caused many original players to leave as decisions made to cater to the casuals started to ruin the game and they dont want to see the same happen here.
What? No, I don't even... come on... noone can be that... geez...

Dual Spec has nothing to do with Casual vs Hardcore. Dual Spec is about the ability to have the same character participate in several sections of the game without paying a huge price and massive inconvenience.

So you can do Both PvP AND PvE, or Both Questing AND Raiding. It was one of the most well received changes they ever did.

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Blizzard shot themselves in the foot twice - first, by making Wrath so difficult it scared off a lot of the more hardcore, and then overcompensating with Cataclysm's difficulty at launch, which scared off a lot of the casuals that were left.
You mean easy, Wrath was pathetically easy. Largely as a reaction to the fact early TBC was extremely hard. Blizzard are good at overshooting their mark when they try to compensate.