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Orizuru
11.25.2014 , 12:47 PM | #51
Outside of warzones, leveling up is balanced around having a companion to support you.

This idea would require all players on PVP servers to either level up in warzones, or have the entire game rebalanced around the idea.

The PVP community is already largely split between PVE and PVP servers. I think this idea would just put another nail in the coffin for PVP servers.

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11.25.2014 , 03:19 PM | #52
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Sinisa
11.25.2014 , 03:42 PM | #53
Quote: Originally Posted by Orizuru View Post
Outside of warzones, leveling up is balanced around having a companion to support you.
That is ok for PVE or not multiplayer game. In PVP game enviroment (companion) must not interact, if it does it is not PVP but PVE.

When there are no companions (enviroment influence) game is harder for non social players who cannot find other players to group with. There is no difference between having companion or fellow player in group in the sense of power, but there is huge difference having two or more minds working together for common goal, in aftermath the game would not be harder but much easier, social and fun.

MMO is about finding other people to play with, playing with companions ignores MMO and gives negative effect that people who are unsocial, dumb or trolls like you have opportunity to achieve something by cheating/bending the MMO play.

Since like you say companions are integral part of the game, i agree, but only for PVE and RP servers where players choose to play against enviroment not other players.

On PVP servers where players choose to play, compete, against or with other players, companions (enviroment) has no place and needs to be removed.

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11.25.2014 , 03:58 PM | #54
Quote: Originally Posted by Sinisa View Post
That is ok for PVE or not multiplayer game. In PVP game enviroment (companion) must not interact, if it does it is not PVP but PVE.

When there are no companions (enviroment influence) game is harder for non social players who cannot find other players to group with. There is no difference between having companion or fellow player in group in the sense of power, but there is huge difference having two or more minds working together for common goal, in aftermath the game would not be harder but much easier, social and fun.

MMO is about finding other people to play with, playing with companions ignores MMO and gives negative effect that people who are unsocial, dumb or trolls like you have opportunity to achieve somehing by cheating/bending the MMO play.

Since like you say companions are integral part of the game, i agree, but only for PVE and RP servers where players choose to play against enviroment not other players.

On PVP servers where players choose to play, compete, against or with other players, companions (enviroment) has no place and needs to be removed.
Please tell me you not that dense? This is a PVE MMO do you understand? It is also MULTIPLAYER. Get through your skull that companions are here to STAY and will not be removed. PVP in this game is centered around the companion concept and if you are as good as you say you are, then if someone has their companions out, you can easily kill them.

But I will wager that because you got your butt handed to you buy a player and their companion, you came here crying for them to be removed.

Not going to happen.
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Quote: Originally Posted by EricMusco View Post
As theUndead mentioned, I can't exactly spell out all of our policies in depth, but that should hopefully cover your concerns.

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DogeDandolo
11.25.2014 , 04:01 PM | #55
Why do I have a feeling the OP encountered the bug that makes one's companion disappear, couldn't find the Companion window to resummon them, then tried to fight someone with enough sense to realise that dealing with companions is an integral part of OW PvP in this game, or any game with pets?
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11.25.2014 , 04:10 PM | #56
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This is a PVE MMO do you understand?
This is a MMORPG MMO with RP, PVE, PVP servers and their combinations.

When you choose to make character on PVP server you get nice message of WARRNING! That you are making a character on a player versus player server, that you should be aware of that.

Since there is a difference between RP and PVE servers, so people who want to RP go on RP server and do stuff there and dont go on PVE server to RP, and people who want to PVE server dont go on RP server and troll that noone should RP. There have to be difference between PVP and PVE servers, and that difference are companions which have no place on PVP servers cause they are enviroment.

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Sinisa
11.25.2014 , 04:12 PM | #57
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...dealing with companions is an integral part of OW PvP in this game, or any game with pets?
I have pets they dont have influence on player vs player interaction. Companions are not pets they are enviroment or bots.

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DogeDandolo
11.25.2014 , 04:14 PM | #58
Quote: Originally Posted by Sinisa View Post
This is a MMORPG MMO with RP, PVE, PVP servers and their combinations.

When you choose to make character on PVP server you get nice message of WARRNING! That you are making a character on a player versus player server, that you should be aware of that.

Since there is a difference between RP and PVE servers, so people who want to RP go on RP server and do stuff there and dont go on PVE server to RP, and people who want to PVE server dont go on RP server and troll that noone should RP. There have to be difference between PVP and PVE servers, and that difference are companions which have no place on PVP servers cause they are enviroment.
By that argument, every quest in the game that does not explicitly involve PvP should be inaccessible on PvP servers.

People do PvE on PvP and RP servers, because PvE is the core of the game around everything else is built. People also do PvP on PvE and RP servers and RP on PvP and PvE servers, because they enjoy doing it, but maybe not quite as much as their server's designated field, or because their interests changed, or because they enjoy the additional thrill of being perma-flagged, and a myriad of other reasons. Taking any of that away would just diminish the game.

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I have pets they dont have influence on player vs player interaction. Companions are not pets they are enviroment or bots.
Pets as in a WoW warlock's or hunter's summons, not as in vanity / cosmetic pets. That is, NPCs that follow you, are controlled by you to some degree, and contribute in combat.
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11.25.2014 , 04:16 PM | #59
Quote: Originally Posted by Sinisa View Post
This is a MMORPG MMO with RP, PVE, PVP servers and their combinations.

When you choose to make character on PVP server you get nice message of WARRNING! That you are making a character on a player versus player server, that you should be aware of that.

Since there is a difference between RP and PVE servers, so people who want to RP go on RP server and do stuff there and dont go on PVE server to RP, and people who want to PVE server dont go on RP server and troll that noone should RP. There have to be difference between PVP and PVE servers, and that difference are companions which have no place on PVP servers cause they are enviroment.
Actually you are incorrect. I play on a RP server and we have individuals that have made toons on the RP server that try to tell the Roleplayers that they shouldn't RP, etc. so your comment that none do that is incorrect.
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11.25.2014 , 04:16 PM | #60
I'm pretty sure this is a troll thread. I wish these forums allowed us to block people in a way more consistent with some of the social media sites out there. The current "ignore" feature is quite lacking. This would be such a better community if that were possible.
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