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Keep 12x for subscribers.


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Obes_au
11.04.2014 , 05:56 AM | #1
It's awesome to see the various class quests. The planet quests etc once was good twice meow... third time? (I don't have short term memory loss) Admittedly I did roll a bunch of Bounty hunters...

Hell make it a Cartel weekly pass of some sort..

But it's been awesome to see other class quests (story) with out all the side experience requirements.

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EnkiduNineEight
11.04.2014 , 06:37 AM | #2
NO! Absolutely not! DO NOT DO THIS!

Even if you made it 'Optional' I would be opposed.

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AmphysvenaCorp
11.04.2014 , 07:05 AM | #3
NO.

I don't even agree with the 12x for preorders. They ruin the main game experience, really.

A big NO to this. This wasn't even a good idea to begin with.

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NiamhSuisei
11.04.2014 , 07:29 AM | #4
agree with above, it's a totally game-breaking mechanism for various reasons

1) the queues for 50/55 fps are empty, cos everyone is levelling
2) those that are levelling are rushing through just in class, so its hard to get people for Heroic4s or whatever
3) You're *meant* to do everything, thats how the game was designed. I get it you've been "grinding worlds" for years, but what do you do when you get to 55? grind dailies. At least grinding worlds you get variety.
4) So you've got 15 level 55s.. now what, big-shot? you can only play one at a time. and that means you have 15 chars you have to grind to get to 60 the old fashioned way (cos 12x will be up by then).

Nah, I'm a fan of starting from scratch and doing everything, class, world, heroics, seeker, macro, fps, tacticals, ops. I'd hate to rush through to get to 55, being 55 is BORING (until the new content comes in). And god-forbid someone new to the game does 12x on their first ever char.

Can't wait till 12x is up and we can all get back to normal. And Bio, please PLEASE don't do it again.

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XiamaraSimi
11.04.2014 , 09:09 AM | #5
Why not make it a -very- expensive Legacy Perk (say legacy 40 like the Treek unlock, that way they can pretty much guarantee by LL 40 you have done all the planetary chains at least once)

Yes we get it, some of you like spelunking every cave and tunnel on the map. But just because you love it, those of us who have already seen those caves and tunnels 10+ times don't, and it activly -discourages- us from leveling more cgaracters because we don't want to slog through it aain when we can recite it from memory.

If its a buyable legacy perk, those of you losing your minds can chose NOT to buy it, problem solved.

Oh, that's right, you are mad no one wants to group with you for heroics/HM/FP. Well, I and several other people i know don't do those anyway way so how would me or others having the boost affect you?

I have 15 characters, and ZERO interest in -ever- doing those planetary chains ever again. 12xp has actually made me think of more characters to make knowing I can see the class quests without seeing the same old boring planet quests for the nth time.

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Anzel
11.04.2014 , 09:12 AM | #6
I would love to see them keep it. Either that or have it scale with legacy for subscribers. So in order to get 12xp you would need the highest legacy level. So at legacy level 1 you get no boost. Level 25 you get 6xp. Level 50 you get 12xp. The planet stories and side quests have little to NO replay value.
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antonmasik
11.04.2014 , 09:55 AM | #7
12x is great. They should keep it in some form. Subscriber-only. Certainly make it optional and able to turn off and back on at any time. There are many options here: cartel market, legacy unlocks, reward for finishing first class story, etc.

Here are my reasons for supporting it:

* Chapter 1 is way too long on all characters. You are around level 32 when you finish it. All of them are basically "get 5 MacGuffins" or "defeat 5 guys", which also makes it a bit boring compared to prologue and later chapters.

* I want to see all character stories and without 12x buff it would have taken me years and years. I'd probably just quit after third one out of exhaustion and not see the big picture, which is pretty awesome actually.

* It actually increases total played time by casuals. Why? Because without the buff they spend months to get one character to max level and get pretty tired of it. Doing it again seems like a huge undertaking, so they do the endgame for a bit, but it's pretty repetitive, so they just quit. With 12x, they can see another class story in less than a few months, but in a longer amount of time than would make them to get fed up with endgame, and they are actually invigorated instead of burned out, so they might just do more classes.
Quote: Originally Posted by NiamhSuisei View Post
1) the queues for 50/55 fps are empty, cos everyone is levelling
2) those that are levelling are rushing through just in class, so its hard to get people for Heroic4s or whatever
3) You're *meant* to do everything, thats how the game was designed. I get it you've been "grinding worlds" for years, but what do you do when you get to 55? grind dailies. At least grinding worlds you get variety.
* Requiring to do the same world missions and flashpoints for over 2 times just because "you're *meant* to do everything" as opposed to what's fun is simply wrong, it's tedious and results in burn-out. If you are a DPS, getting into flashpoints is pretty hopeless (before the buff, I've been in queue for over 10 hours while watching streams and such, had to just quit in the end) and 12x buff helps to bypass them. You can get variety to max level dailies by doing another class story -- does not have to be another grind.

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Quote: Originally Posted by NiamhSuisei View Post
4) So you've got 15 level 55s.. now what, big-shot? you can only play one at a time.
The buff's point is to allow you to see all class stories. Class story ends at 50. Just take whatever character you like and play that after 50. It's a non-issue here.
Quote: Originally Posted by NiamhSuisei View Post
I'm a fan of starting from scratch and doing everything, class, world, heroics, seeker, macro, fps, tacticals, ops. I'd hate to rush through to get to 55, being 55 is BORING (until the new content comes in).
If buff is optional, it's a non-issue.
Quote: Originally Posted by NiamhSuisei View Post
And god-forbid someone new to the game does 12x on their first ever char.
People are different. Some people love Star Wars, but don't enjoy doing anything in groups, spamming for heroics, sitting in flashpoint queue for hours, getting rekt in PVP, etc. Why deny them an optional buff to solve this issue?
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Makrogai
11.04.2014 , 11:19 AM | #8
Keep it! I can't even level anything without the buff, seriously, it took me about a year to get my sniper from 1-45 before I gave up.

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Atalantia
11.04.2014 , 11:58 AM | #9
While I like the 12x, Leveling my previous 8 55's wasn't that time consuming.

Would be nice to be able to get it at say a lvl 45 or so legacy perk.

I've spent more time doing Heriocs once i got to 50 on this toon than any other toon simple because I'm too lazy to craft all the Mods and crap
Was before F2P

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chosonman
11.04.2014 , 01:19 PM | #10
no /5chars