Life some restrictions for F2P?

Also, I would point out there are other ways to view the data, in fairness.

MMOBomb had a pretty good opinion piece on the study.

http://www.mmobomb.com/news/free-pla...-revenue-2014/

As always, I encourage folks to do their own research and draw their own conclusions, but I choose to stick to mine.

Yes, they quote the "data" that requires $2,000 to view.

MOBA =/= MMORPG

No bias there.

Partial data is just that. Partial data, neither complete nor impartial.

Oh come on now. It's easy to dismiss facts by saying they are not impartial. That is a silly contention.

The information is reported from the companies themselves, and Superdata is well respected in the industry.

Here is a good study synopses from 2013, cited by major game reporting sites all over the net.

You have known me for quite some time Ratajack...have you ever known me to post false or biased information?

Yea you have to be incredibly careful with reviewing what companies provide as to their numbers, as they all love to play games and hide things. I saw this myself when I was in the industry, what was reported as the subscription rate for the game I worked on vs reality was so far different it was amazing.

Actually, I cant really argue against this point. If this is what you meant Ratajack and hadoken, then I digress. We do rely on the accuracy of data released by companies, and they certainly could fudge some or all of the data.

So I concede that the information out there could be inaccurate for that reason. I have to concede that.

No. However, you have also been pretty good about backing up your claims with links to COMPLETE data.

Often, there is a reason when someone breaks their patterns. Would you care to explain why you broke your pattern this time?

+ 1. So + 1. Characters = "users" = subscriptions. All accounts ever = players = subscribers.

Noseygamer is a website I was introduced to recently.

http://nosygamer.blogspot.com/

Scroll down a bit for MMORPG (not MOBA) user numbers.

At the end of the day, if subscribers are the ones buying Cartel crap, two things come to mind:

1) Why on earth would the parent company EVER change their model?

2) Why are we even having this conversation?

Fair enough.

In this case I actually cant provide the complete report, or a link to it in it's entirety. It is proprietary. I could get in big trouble for that.

I can point people to the site, or any other site that has received permission to collate the data for public release.

They should clear folks to post the data entirely when they release the full report for free in a few months.

As you probably know, I had the same problem in Dec of 2013 when I spoke about the current market data, and folks wanted to see the full report information. It wasn't until Massively posted most of it that folks gave me a pass. Until then I got the same kind of accusations thrown at me as I am getting now.

Of course now that information is common knowledge.

Thanks for the site link. I'm going to check it out.

Interesting to see SWTOR 2nd on that list.