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What would motivate you to collect all Datacrons? What would motivate most people?

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What would motivate you to collect all Datacrons? What would motivate most people?

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MagikFingerz
10.25.2014 , 09:19 AM | #81
Quote: Originally Posted by Pirana View Post
I have no doubt it was probably skewed. Like anything on the internet, you take it with a grain of salt.

To your last point. This wouldn't be an improvement to a game feature, it would be removing a game feature.
If it's added as a legacy unlock, nothing would be removed. Anyone who so please would be able to find them as many times as they'd like, while those who don't would be able to unlock them for a price.
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Lotharofxev
10.25.2014 , 09:38 AM | #82
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I find it amusing how childish some of you are in your replies.

I would like for you guys to do something for me.
1) Open another browser tab and go to youtube
2) search "Dear Star Trek Online, Do Better"
3) A video will pop up from the user named "The Justicar", Watch this please.

I think you will find him and his videos very appealing.
This goes double for employees.
I lol'ed when he talked about time. At the end of the day, players vote with their wallets. The day the better mousetrap comes along, it'll look like rats leaving the Titanic.

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Pirana
10.25.2014 , 10:14 AM | #83
Quote: Originally Posted by MagikFingerz View Post
If it's added as a legacy unlock, nothing would be removed. Anyone who so please would be able to find them as many times as they'd like, while those who don't would be able to unlock them for a price.
So in other words, pay to win. Similar to some of the other options currently in game.

I'm all for it. I say we just put everything in the Legacy area, so we can unlock it. Gear, Operation Achievements, instant cap leveled characters, and pretty much anything pertaining to the game. This way I can log in, unlock everything, log off.

The stats for the most part are becoming trivial, even the Cubes you get for free from the Dats are nearly worthless compared to others.

You want them, go earn them.
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primetheous
10.25.2014 , 10:54 AM | #84
the datacrons that give coloured shards for matrix cubes need to be brought upto date I love collecting them but past lvl 50 they are useless we have 2x relic slots so make one best in slot as matrix cube and the other as pvp/pve based .
this will get a lot more people visiting places again giving a lot more replayability
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LyraineAlei
10.25.2014 , 11:04 AM | #85
Quote: Originally Posted by Pirana View Post
So in other words, pay to win. Similar to some of the other options currently in game.

I'm all for it. I say we just put everything in the Legacy area, so we can unlock it. Gear, Operation Achievements, instant cap leveled characters, and pretty much anything pertaining to the game. This way I can log in, unlock everything, log off.

The stats for the most part are becoming trivial, even the Cubes you get for free from the Dats are nearly worthless compared to others.

You want them, go earn them.
There are requirements to most of those unlocks. And BW could adjust those requirements to be something akin to high legacy level+ Datacron Master Achievement+ high credit/Some CC, and not have a straight-up Buy with CC option.

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Oneirophrenia
10.25.2014 , 12:18 PM | #86
Quote: Originally Posted by Lotharofxev View Post
No, I think he pretty much nailed the situation.
It's interesting that you would choose to voice your support for a post that is perhaps the most generlization prone one in this entire thread.

I run operations very often on all my 55's yet I have never hated getting datacrons for my various characters or felt that it was just "time wasted" after the fact. I simply go grab the datacrons when I'm bored and wants to kill some time. Why would I loathe the process if I literally have nothing else to occupy my attention with? So now the question boils down to, what exactly compelled you two to feel even remotely qualified to speak for my preferences and experiences?

There's a major difference between "I hate getting them" (personal preference) and "raiders hate getting them" (blatant generalization).

Edit: Here's the one thing people tend to lose sight of when discussing datacrons. They aren't Pokemon, you don't have to *get them all*. My op healer has been level 55 for 7-8 months, still missing several aim/cunning/endurance datacrons but can do HM ops and WZs just fine. If you feel otherwise compelled or pressured to have them all for every character then it is your "gaming enjoyment" priority that needs some adjustment, not the datacron process itself.

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Pirana
10.25.2014 , 12:19 PM | #87
Quote: Originally Posted by LyraineAlei View Post
There are requirements to most of those unlocks. And BW could adjust those requirements to be something akin to high legacy level+ Datacron Master Achievement+ high credit/Some CC, and not have a straight-up Buy with CC option.
Or, you can load onto the planet and fetch them yourself. Sounds like a fair requirement to me.
This is all moot at this point anyway, the Devs have already stated, that this will not be implemented.

Back on topic though. The stats are the motivation.
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MagikFingerz
10.25.2014 , 12:21 PM | #88
Quote: Originally Posted by Pirana View Post
So in other words, pay to win. Similar to some of the other options currently in game.

I'm all for it. I say we just put everything in the Legacy area, so we can unlock it. Gear, Operation Achievements, instant cap leveled characters, and pretty much anything pertaining to the game. This way I can log in, unlock everything, log off.

The stats for the most part are becoming trivial, even the Cubes you get for free from the Dats are nearly worthless compared to others.

You want them, go earn them.
Legacy datacrons would be Pay2Win? Lol.
55's: Sage - Caranx | Sentinel - Wu'Chi Gunslinger - Jhaxx | Commando - Chronix
Assassin - Thoraxx | Juggernaut - Haxxion Operative - Axihn | PowerTech - Drexxin

<55's: Shadow - Nexxon | Guardian - Daexion Scoundrel - Jhaxara | Vanguard - Chronox
Sorcerer - Thoraxa | Marauder - Raxxon Sniper - Draxxon | Mercenary - Laranxa

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Kryand
10.25.2014 , 12:25 PM | #89
I don't mind the jumping puzzles at all. I just don't want to do them because of the time it takes to travel to the planet and drive all the way to whatever remote location they are in. Even if I nail them all on the first try, it's still like 3 hours straight just driving around trying to collect them all.

One thing that would help A LOT with that is a zero-cooldown quicktravel.
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Darth_Advent
10.25.2014 , 12:36 PM | #90
Lore and completion satisfaction were enough to motivate me to collect the datacrons on a main character representing each faction. I can't say what they could do to make repeating this tedious process on 6 alts compelling. Even back at the level cap of 50 a handful of piddling stat points and a swiftly obsoleted relic couldn't coerce me into again tolerating such appalling ersatz platforming or maintaining the patience requisite to shill for help in order to get those datacrons needing group support. Experiencing those challenges once or twice is sufficient.

The rewards for datacron collection, though, absolutely should be accessible through the legacy system. It's not as if that poor neglected feature is just overflowing with feature bloat or received too much developer attention ever since the 1.2 patch. The whole purpose of the legacy, as should be obvious in its naming, is to give an account's characters access to things they wouldn't otherwise have based on some achievement or investment by other characters. Finding the datacrons on one character and having them open to the rest either automatically or via a paywall credits or Cartel Coins is 100% sensible and justified, and I really don't understand why it hasn't been taken off the Wall of Crazy and made one of the perks of a patch.
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