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Group Mission Harrassment


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branmakmuffin
10.20.2014 , 08:10 AM | #81
Quote: Originally Posted by ScarletBlaze View Post
Have you checked the GTN lately? 180 gear is being sold for 2.5m (at the lowest) but that is each piece.
That is true. Availability is also hit and miss, but you're right, you can buy 180s with creds off the GTN.

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Pagy
10.20.2014 , 08:37 AM | #82
Quote: Originally Posted by Yorioko View Post
I really had no idea what heading to put on this.
In many, too many in fact cases I have been in FPs and other Group missions, also lvl 50 and 55s only to either witness or be a victim to some of the other People, usually a majority( in 4+ Groups) that player With lower grear then "though recomended or preffered " get kicked, or complained about throughout the mission.

Then you have those players that haven't fought every boss in the game, or been in every singel Group mision ( here FPS etc etc) and thses naturally makes mistakes, and get "punished" by kicked for it.....
I don't understand this and to this is HARRASSMENT and one that the DEV supports as there is no way for 1 person to raise such an issue befor they explode allover the server and get them selves in the "shait! to say the least.

After all the ONLY way to get coms it earn them, and well too bad for the People I Call !******ters" as it means thay THEY must live With the totally game killing fact that at some point somone will be lowered geared then them and thus " slowing Down their run "

to this I say so F-ing what...........get With it.
If you have gir, shut it and help those that don't
Do not cry like a retarded moron because these peple are "slowing" you Down...

What are the reason peole complain in mission on other people's gir, kick them or sucgh, or if they are totally noobs or New to that Mission?
Doing that IS harrassment and honestly I think the Developers should thake this extermely serious and actually permanetntly ban the Ips of People harring others like this , even it it is just 1 complain on somone who never harrassed before....

Maybe this way People will get thie gir as wll and maybe there will be less morons in the Group mission that actaully do consider others!

Any thought to why I am sooooooo wrong in this?
this is absolutely not harassment

your attitude is a natural consequence of the "entitled / participation trophy" generation we've seem to build where you're always a victim and every challenge can be avoided by shouting "stop bullying me, i'm a snowflake and am entitled to a free pass.

As many already have, I'll reiterate.
This is a multiplayer game and no one will force me to play with you. It's my choice.
I cannot unilaterally kick you from a group.
I am entitled to an opinion about your gear and skill and will freely express it.
Joining multiplayer groups in any online game and expecting people to carry you or waste their time against their will is extremely inconsiderate.

In conclusion, this is a multiplayer game and you will find plenty of people willing to take undergeared/inexperienced players. Some wont. Those that dont wish to, can remove you. You are not entitled to group with people just because you pay a sub.

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TUXs
10.20.2014 , 09:09 AM | #83
Quote: Originally Posted by annabethchase View Post
Normally when people get kicked, it is from the Hard Mode mission. That is not the place for a new player to start. The new player who wants to do a group mission should choose Tactical Mode. That is the fair place for him or her to start and people there will help them get gear. That is the way that is fair to all the group members.
100% THIS!

Or...people get kicked because of their attitude. Gear is very seldom a factor in anything PuG related, unless it's HM.
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Pagy
10.20.2014 , 09:11 AM | #84
Quote: Originally Posted by RiVaN_ View Post
I guess my definition of being a good person and helping out others is a lot different than most people in this thread.
My definition of being a good person and helping others has nothing to do with video games.

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Lotharofxev
10.20.2014 , 09:11 AM | #85
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Entitlement generation. No other reason. Apparently simply because you can queue for a 55 HM FP (*), that means you should. And let me tell you, from experience - they do. Then, God forbid, the rest of the group doesn't want to carry them (and don't kid yourself - they are), well that's "harassment".
Please allow me to quote myself....

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DogeDandolo
10.20.2014 , 09:12 AM | #86
May I just butt in here to mention that "entitlement generation" is not only a tiny bit offensive to its supposed members but also completely unscientific? Cheers, moving along.
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branmakmuffin
10.20.2014 , 09:17 AM | #87
Quote: Originally Posted by Pagy View Post
My definition of being a good person and helping others has nothing to do with video games.
Well said.

Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs View Post
100% THIS!

Or...people get kicked because of their attitude. Gear is very seldom a factor in anything PuG related, unless it's HM.
This is awesome. TUXs and I get to agree on something else besides AC change.

And to agree and reiterate, the only tacticals where gear is really an issue are Meltdown (because the Vigilant has an enrage timer, even if it is longer than it is in HM, and the desert boss' barrels do not respawn once broken) and Manaan (the water puddle boss is IMO the hardest tactical boss in the game and the end boss has the 5-minute kill timer). Other than those 2, I am more than willing to let an undergeared character stay to see how it goes (especially if the player is willing to man the kolto stations).

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BuriDogshin
10.20.2014 , 09:59 AM | #88
Quote: Originally Posted by Jrr_hypernova View Post
Of course I've seen the cost there's a reason I only have a few 180 gear parts and the rest is all 168. I said it was doable not that it was practical
At 2.5 million per piece, it is practical. There are people with well over 100 million credits in this game. They can afford to fully gear a toon using 180 mods from the GTN (which would cost about 75 million credits including earpieces and implants). Mind you, I am not saying they do, but they could.

After all, some people buy mounts for 7 million credits.
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robertthebard
10.20.2014 , 02:14 PM | #89
Quote: Originally Posted by BuriDogshin View Post
At 2.5 million per piece, it is practical. There are people with well over 100 million credits in this game. They can afford to fully gear a toon using 180 mods from the GTN (which would cost about 75 million credits including earpieces and implants). Mind you, I am not saying they do, but they could.

After all, some people buy mounts for 7 million credits.
...and then they stand in the laser in TBC, and can't figure out why their gear didn't save them, but hey, at least they had the gear, right?

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tmblake
10.20.2014 , 02:27 PM | #90
I agree with the OP and have witnessed it firsthand. Someone in the party does something wrong during the mission and someone (usually the self-righteous tank) belittles them for it. It's a game, GET OVER YOURSELVES. People make mistakes, and if it pisses you off so much that people make mistakes, make your own dedicated party of people you know actually are familiar with the content.

I totally agree, it is harassment. The group finder is there so people can find groups to run things and get gear in order to do better; if you are using this tool to make PUGs, then do NOT complain if someone messes up or you get someone under-geared. People have to start somewhere. Be proactive and make sure people actually understand the flashpoint/op before running into a boss fight. This leads me back to the self-righteous tanks. You know the ones: the ones that breeze through the whole flashpoint as fast as they can and pause maybe 1 second before leaping at the boss.
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