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Yorioko
10.19.2014 , 06:49 AM | #1
I really had no idea what heading to put on this.
In many, too many in fact cases I have been in FPs and other Group missions, also lvl 50 and 55s only to either witness or be a victim to some of the other People, usually a majority( in 4+ Groups) that player With lower grear then "though recomended or preffered " get kicked, or complained about throughout the mission.

Then you have those players that haven't fought every boss in the game, or been in every singel Group mision ( here FPS etc etc) and thses naturally makes mistakes, and get "punished" by kicked for it.....
I don't understand this and to this is HARRASSMENT and one that the DEV supports as there is no way for 1 person to raise such an issue befor they explode allover the server and get them selves in the "shait! to say the least.

After all the ONLY way to get coms it earn them, and well too bad for the People I Call !******ters" as it means thay THEY must live With the totally game killing fact that at some point somone will be lowered geared then them and thus " slowing Down their run "

to this I say so F-ing what...........get With it.
If you have gir, shut it and help those that don't
Do not cry like a retarded moron because these peple are "slowing" you Down...

What are the reason peole complain in mission on other people's gir, kick them or sucgh, or if they are totally noobs or New to that Mission?
Doing that IS harrassment and honestly I think the Developers should thake this extermely serious and actually permanetntly ban the Ips of People harring others like this , even it it is just 1 complain on somone who never harrassed before....

Maybe this way People will get thie gir as wll and maybe there will be less morons in the Group mission that actaully do consider others!

Any thought to why I am sooooooo wrong in this?

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pquadro
10.19.2014 , 06:58 AM | #2
Girrrr to the People!

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Elly_Dawn
10.19.2014 , 07:06 AM | #3
so, if we get our GIR will it sing the doom song for us?..
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annabethchase
10.19.2014 , 07:07 AM | #4
I'm sorry, but the recommended gear level is not a suggestion. You are not contributing to the group if you have less than this gear and thus you should not be a part of the group. I personally don't whine about it for the whole group, I calmly state it at the beginning and vote kick that person from the group. We won't win with you, so why would I even try?
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Yorioko
10.19.2014 , 07:09 AM | #5
No, but supposed you have all green gir and then enter a 55 FP, then the others feels you are a hinder as you don't deal enough damage, take enough a beating or dies to fast so THEIR experience of "fun" is lessenedø.
Yet the guy in "green" may have this gir because he haven't gotten any other and he has to get it somewhere
LOL
To get coms you must og to a Place where coms pay out...and for that you need the gir other complain you don't have
Og figure what goes throuh the ******* minds?

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Yorioko
10.19.2014 , 07:13 AM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by annabethchase View Post
I'm sorry, but the recommended gear level is not a suggestion. You are not contributing to the group if you have less than this gear and thus you should not be a part of the group. I personally don't whine about it for the whole group, I calmly state it at the beginning and vote kick that person from the group. We won't win with you, so why would I even try?
So the possibility tat this may be someone else's first time on this mission or a fist grabs at the right Level gir makes no differance?
Isn't this being very inconsiderate.
And if I knew I was kicked through low gir alone, I can not see how that is not harrassing or being just mean

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QuinlanSaathis
10.19.2014 , 07:14 AM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by Yorioko View Post
No, but supposed you have all green gir and then enter a 55 FP, then the others feels you are a hinder as you don't deal enough damage, take enough a beating or dies to fast so THEIR experience of "fun" is lessenedø.
Yet the guy in "green" may have this gir because he haven't gotten any other and he has to get it somewhere
LOL
To get coms you must og to a Place where coms pay out...and for that you need the gir other complain you don't have
Og figure what goes throuh the ******* minds?
This is utter rubbish.
If you use planetary comms from Makeb you can get purples.
Taking that one step further, run through Oricon for the first time for an even better set of FREE artefact level armor.

No one has any business being in greens in a lvl 55 FP.
And yes I would kick your *** out of the group too.
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annabethchase
10.19.2014 , 07:19 AM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by Yorioko View Post
So the possibility tat this may be someone else's first time on this mission or a fist grabs at the right Level gir makes no differance?
Isn't this being very inconsiderate.
And if I knew I was kicked through low gir alone, I can not see how that is not harrassing or being just mean
Normally when people get kicked, it is from the Hard Mode mission. That is not the place for a new player to start. The new player who wants to do a group mission should choose Tactical Mode. That is the fair place for him or her to start and people there will help them get gear. That is the way that is fair to all the group members.
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Cox_The_Beast
10.19.2014 , 07:21 AM | #9
I tend to be extremely patient with others, if they don't know about hte FP/Op or whatever and they say so, I'm more than glad to explain the basics.
That said, if they don't speak up I have all the right to at least point out they made my work harder since I had to compensate for them. I have to admit, though, that there are indeed people not exactly patient and tolerant in that regard.

However, your reasoning has a mistake at the basis. The Suggested Gear level - or however it's called, can't remember now - is NOT a suggestion, but hte gear level you NEED to have to be able to go through the mission!
I tend not to kick others if their being undergeared - quite severely most of the times, and especially lately with the Class Mission Exp boost - can be compensated by me and hte others in the team. But if you find yourself in a lvl 55 HM FP with a Tank - or Healer, or even a DPS if the other DPS is not severely overgeared - with 12k HPs, in lvl 30-40 greens without the proper stat, you won't be able to finish the mission. As such, if you're undergeared and you get kicked, it is your fault. Get the gear you need beforehands.

At lvl 50 you can get your hands on Makeb mods with 140 rating for Planetary comms. That alone is a big help. Through Makeb's mission line you can get a full lvl 53 armor set with 148 rating, which is also good. Oricon gives you a full 156 rating set only for questing there, so you have really no excuse imo. It takes like 1h at most to tackle Oricon, and if you have a friend or two to help you with the final [Heroic 2] it's even faster.
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Oyranos
10.19.2014 , 07:26 AM | #10
that is not harassment...

Its up to other people if they want u in the group or not, if you have lower than the required gear.

I experienced a different thing in groups with a new alt I lvled... I am 29k hp and I queued in the group as DPS.
I get the group notification for an fp and the healer turns to be the same class as I am!

But here is the harassment... The healer, is not actually a healer, he signed as a healer, be able to find a group faster!
Then he starts threaten me and others, to force kick me off the group, so he can turn into dps and invite another healer. (the reason is, he is not a healer and he is 32k hp while I am 29k hp).... He even vote kicked me but he failed, because the others didnt vote.


This is harassment. This thing happens mostly in the republics! I experienced it twice 2 days ago... If their class is compatible for heal and dps, they sign as healer and then they try to kick off groups the weak dps, so they can get their place...

The result in my case, was to rasp him really hard, me and the others in the group and we kicked them... but it happens allot. I am 29k with that alt, if I was 18k or 16k like a fresh 55, I bet they would kick me without let me defend my right to play.
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