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PvPers, calm thyselves.

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Ludan
12.26.2011 , 08:55 AM | #1
As a fellow PvPer, I can understand your frustrations to a degree. I wan't to be able to Q with 8 people. I don't want to be kicked from my group everytime I Q. I want some more balance. New warzones. Arena. Ect ect ect.

These are all things that will need to be looked at, but you are all expecting them to start address this soon. And it's not going to happen for atleast awhile. The main reason, is most people are not even 50 yet. And once that happens, people will be gearing up for the next month afterwards.

Just take a big breath, and realize this game JUST launched, SIX days ago. So don't rush off back to whatever game you came from, and just enjoy swtor for the awesome game it is now... if they still haven't given us what we want after a few months, WE WILL STORM AUSTIN IN FULL!
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Vaegaknight
12.26.2011 , 09:02 AM | #2
Quote: Originally Posted by Ludan View Post
As a fellow PvPer, I can understand your frustrations to a degree. I wan't to be able to Q with 8 people. I don't want to be kicked from my group everytime I Q. I want some more balance. New warzones. Arena. Ect ect ect.

These are all things that will need to be looked at, but you are all expecting them to start address this soon. And it's not going to happen for atleast awhile. The main reason, is most people are not even 50 yet. And once that happens, people will be gearing up for the next month afterwards.

Just take a big breath, and realize this game JUST launched, SIX days ago. So don't rush off back to whatever game you came from, and just enjoy swtor for the awesome game it is now... if they still haven't given us what we want after a few months, WE WILL STORM AUSTIN IN FULL!
The main reason is the game has only been out for six days... >.>

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Parabola-
12.26.2011 , 09:09 AM | #3
the main issue for me is.. look how much effort and detail they have put into the PvE side of things.. PvP has been little more than a box ticking exercise, no world pvp, playing the same HUTTBALL map over and over not to mention the long wait times to do so and having lvl10s fighting lvl 50s.

It's clear BW don't care about the PvP side of swtor so if they dont make some announcements soon regarding fixing this sad excuse for "content" I will be canceling my subscription pretty soon as PvE bores me.

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Ludanyke
12.26.2011 , 09:11 AM | #4
Bads and sons, you all need to calm down.
The games hasn't even been out for a week yet.
Disgraceful.
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MrTerrito
12.26.2011 , 09:14 AM | #5
If you want these things you shouldn't complain, some of these people are advocating for things that I want so let them keep posting and reminding developers of what changes we want. I agree most of these things are going to take awhile but it is good to keep it fresh on the developers minds and maybe even bump it up a notch in the priority queue.

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Parabola-
12.26.2011 , 09:25 AM | #6
I just came from playing AoC where pvpers got screwed by the devs, so I'm not gonna waste my time and money again unless some concrete announcements regarding pvp are made within the first month or so

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Aetla
12.26.2011 , 09:50 AM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by Parabola- View Post
the main issue for me is.. look how much effort and detail they have put into the PvE side of things.. PvP has been little more than a box ticking exercise, no world pvp, playing the same HUTTBALL map over and over not to mention the long wait times to do so and having lvl10s fighting lvl 50s.
TBH this was what i afraiding of most!

Devs of AoC killed a game and did not even bother themselves to listen playerbase once to hear whats what. They just pretented to do so but never provided what the players need. So, its an old story and i won't make comparison between SWTOR and AoC.

The point is devs are limit themselves and tend to listen players whom mostly not true challengers but only carebears. I hope Bioware figures out what the PvP players really need besides enjoying truly epic storyline and exceptionally crafted worlds and all lore. I really enjoy making quests and leveling up while shaping up my story in Star Wars universe.

What i'm looking forward to see mostly, "real serious" efforts and innovative at least satisfying steps to make PvP gamers happy. Rewarding the world PvP by real achievements, titles etc is the first step imo. Personally i prefer spontaneous challenges and battles between teams and such rather than premade based warzones...

I trust in Bioware and i trust in their positive approach towards the playerbase. Hence i prefer to keep playing in a small pace and not rushing to hit high levels until i enjoy real world pvp.
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Sardoni
12.26.2011 , 10:04 AM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by Ludan View Post
As a fellow PvPer, I can understand your frustrations to a degree. I wan't to be able to Q with 8 people. I don't want to be kicked from my group everytime I Q. I want some more balance. New warzones. Arena. Ect ect ect.

These are all things that will need to be looked at, but you are all expecting them to start address this soon. And it's not going to happen for atleast awhile. The main reason, is most people are not even 50 yet. And once that happens, people will be gearing up for the next month afterwards.

Just take a big breath, and realize this game JUST launched, SIX days ago. So don't rush off back to whatever game you came from, and just enjoy swtor for the awesome game it is now... if they still haven't given us what we want after a few months, WE WILL STORM AUSTIN IN FULL!
We brought a lot of these problems we're seeing in PVP up in beta specifically and they still launched. Read the blog... the next patch is a PVE raid planet.

As a level 50, all I want is not to be paired with a level 10 with 4 abilities on their hotbar in a warzone.. preferably not 9 other sub level 20s as a level 50 healer... lot of good that does. Additionally, I'd like to get merc commendations for killing people in open world within 5 levels of me. Killed people in Tat Outlaw's Den and Ilum and only got some valor in Illum... no valor in outlaw's den.

So I need to get 800 warzone accommodations to get a bag that MIGHT have gear in it. I don't want to see huttball ever again. I'd rather be converting my open world merc tokens into warzone tokens.

I never expected this to be a PVP game... anyone who did heh... sorry about your hopes. Could it grow into a decent one? Maybe, but just like with Warhammer and Rift... by the time they figure out how to do it the PVP population went back to FPS games or single player PC/console games.

What most people fail to realize is we don't "run back" to another MMO. The bulk of us just stop playing MMOs.

Bioware delivered a great story, as expected. They released it over the winter holidays when school/college is out which gave those people more than ample time to hit max level pretty quickly as expected from me.

The lack of legacy system info has prevented me from leveling an alt while I wait and see what that system is. So for me, I hit 50 on 12/20... I got my crew skills to 400... got all the datacrons... ran all the flashpoints at least once... and twiddle my thumbs waiting for meaningful open world pvp to happen.

Meaningful open world PVP was the most common post in my June Beta group and put into all of our surveys (at least mine). I'm waiting to see if Ilum picks up, but dead bodies of players don't stop dropping the merc comms the casuals will be gone faster than us PVPers. 800 warzone tokens for one bag... lol as much as the rest of the game was designed for casuals in mind they sure didn't consider the casuals with regard to PVP gear.

/rant.
Been around the MMO Block...
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MrTerrito
12.26.2011 , 10:10 AM | #9
Lot of stuff there, as of right now I'm lvl 38, I think I'm probably just slightly ahead of the average lvler, I also have to lvl up all my professions. The point I want to make is I'll probably have at least one month of content before I start complaining about the end game content, followed by a whole lot of other people who reached max lvl.

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UglyPete
12.26.2011 , 10:20 AM | #10
I don't think a lot of people understand how game development works. The most you can hope for in the short term and by short term I'm talking the next few weeks til the end of the first year is some small balance changes, the addition of easier commendation farming from open world pvp, and the addition of warzones that they have been planning and working on for months.

Enjoy the game for what it is for as long as you can because it's not going to change as much as people want it to.