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ETA on Advanced Class change?

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ETA on Advanced Class change?

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Ratajack
10.06.2014 , 03:53 PM | #5551
Quote: Originally Posted by Jaxtes View Post
Who knows but bringing a dramatic change to skill system is the best time to provide an AC class switch.
Think the quote might have been more of an emphasis that FREE AC change is not coming.
*Fingers crossed*
I'm sorry, but why would you even think that is is possible that he meant no free class (AC) changes?

Here's the quote:

Quote: Originally Posted by EricMusco View Post
Disciplines being introduced will not allow you to change Advanced Class, just Discipline. Example, if you are a Madness Sorcerer right now you will have the option of which Discipline to move into, Corruption, Lightning, or Madness just like you do now! Also, just like now, you will be able to change Disciplines after choosing should you want to.

-eric
Nowhere in that quote does he say that you will be able to change your class (AC). In fact, he specifically says that the introduction of disciplines " will not allow you to change Advanced Class, just Discipline". That seems pretty clear to me.

Although Eric did not specifically say so, it would seem to me that there are no plans to allow class (AC) changes at this time.

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Mozepy
10.06.2014 , 09:16 PM | #5552
They are in the process of making things simpler for Ratajack, not harder.

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Jaxtes
10.06.2014 , 10:03 PM | #5553
Quote: Originally Posted by Ratajack View Post
I'm sorry, but why would you even think that is is possible that he meant no free class (AC) changes?

Nowhere in that quote does he say that you will be able to change your class (AC). In fact, he specifically says that the introduction of disciplines " will not allow you to change Advanced Class, just Discipline". That seems pretty clear to me.

Although Eric did not specifically say so, it would seem to me that there are no plans to allow class (AC) changes at this time.
If discipline bought AC change it would be free bioware will not make revenue, when they can easily sell the swap as a single use consumable on the CM.
I meant the new system will not bring free change but does not make it any less likely they wont introduce it in future.
Hence the *fingers crossed* hoping they bring it soon.

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Jimvinny
10.07.2014 , 06:51 PM | #5554
Two things;

First of all, with how quickly you can level a new toon to 55 with the 12x xp buff, there is no reason for an AC change.

Secondly, in todays livestream, both Eric Musco and David Demaree stated that when you select an AC, that choice is final. "You're done. You can't go back and change that. "

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ZeroPlus
10.08.2014 , 05:49 AM | #5555
Quote: Originally Posted by Jimvinny View Post
Two things;

First of all, with how quickly you can level a new toon to 55 with the 12x xp buff, there is no reason for an AC change.
Actually, there is a reason. Getting a toon to 55 is not the be all and end all of the question.
This is a story based game and for me (and many others) many of my toons "mean something" to me.
For example, I have both an Assassin and a Sorcerer at 55.
The Assassin is one of my 10 "mains": he has a fully fledged backstory, motivations, mounts, achievements, gear, companions at max affection, etc, etc, etc..., that I worked hard for him to get; my Assassin is "important" to me.
My Sorcerer on the other hand is an "alt": he was created almost a year after the Assassin so that I could experience the Sorcerer Lightning spec first hand instead of just seeing it and he has nothing especial and "means" nothing special to me and has been "inactive" since he hit 55 (over 6 months ago).
However, the Sorcerer did show me that I enjoy the Sorcerer gameplay *more* than the Assassin gameplay (which I do enjoy and play regularly, but I find myself missing the Sorcerer gameplay).
When the AC switch becomes a reality, my Assassin will become a Sorcerer. Not because of "flavour of the month" reasons. Not because he was "nerfed". Not because the Sorcerer is "overpowered". Simply because it will mean that a toon that "means something to me" will also now have a playstyle that I have discovered I enjoy more.
I will continue to play with "my" Assassin until he becomes "my" Sorcerer.

Quote: Originally Posted by Jimvinny View Post
Secondly, in todays livestream, both Eric Musco and David Demaree stated that when you select an AC, that choice is final. "You're done. You can't go back and change that. "
"At this time.". Remember that phrase. It is the one constant of MMOs: things change.
Think about it: you have 4 NPCs on each fleet, a total of 8 NPCs, that are currently only used once by anyone: the Advanced Class Trainers.
Do you really think that at some point you won't be able to go up to them and, for a fee, reset your Advanced Class? "At this time" this isn't possible... but things change.
(If anything, the livestream showed just how easy it is to "reset" the Advanced Class choice. It is done at least twice during the livestream. )
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Jaxtes
10.08.2014 , 09:00 AM | #5556
Quote: Originally Posted by Jimvinny View Post
"You're done. You can't go back and change that. "
They took a definite stance
Well if that is true i might quit sooner than i think this was one of the maybes that have been stringing me on. I have a story for each of my toons if AC switch does not come i would have to delete them and replay. (slight case of OCD hate it but have to do it)
GSF GSH don't interest me( did not even unlock the nar shadda one even though have been sub the entire time).
next time i get tired of the game might leave and imagine will not be the only one to do so.

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Jaxtes
10.08.2014 , 09:03 AM | #5557
Quote: Originally Posted by ZeroPlus View Post
"At this time.". Remember that phrase. It is the one constant of MMOs: things change.
Think about it: you have 4 NPCs on each fleet, a total of 8 NPCs, that are currently only used once by anyone: the Advanced Class Trainers.
Do you really think that at some point you won't be able to go up to them and, for a fee, reset your Advanced Class? "At this time" this isn't possible... but things change.
(If anything, the livestream showed just how easy it is to "reset" the Advanced Class choice. It is done at least twice during the livestream. )
Jumped the gun again
I will repeat again the disciple system with the current XP boost is the best time to bring AC switch( for cartel coins of course).

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Jimvinny
10.08.2014 , 09:14 AM | #5558
Quote: Originally Posted by ZeroPlus View Post
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Do you really think that at some point you won't be able to go up to them and, for a fee, reset your Advanced Class? "At this time" this isn't possible... but things change.
(If anything, the livestream showed just how easy it is to "reset" the Advanced Class choice. It is done at least twice during the livestream. )
They never said " At this time." Simply that you can't go back. As for how easily they changed the AC, they also leveled to 60 instantly, and eliminated the internal cool down for an ability. Are you telling me those features are coming soon too? Am I going to be able to spam death field over and over with no CD? How about master strike?

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Jaxtes
10.08.2014 , 09:24 AM | #5559
Quote: Originally Posted by Jimvinny View Post
As for how easily they changed the AC, they also leveled to 60 instantly, and eliminated the internal cool down for an ability. Are you telling me those features are coming soon too? Am I going to be able to spam death field over and over with no CD? How about master strike?
Switching AC is not the same as the other examples you have given. If you believe they are i hope you are against adaptive armor, character customization and dyes and don't use them as a matter or principle.

Blizzard introduced a instant character boost and this game was supposed to be EA's WoW killer.

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ZeroPlus
10.08.2014 , 09:25 AM | #5560
Quote: Originally Posted by Jimvinny View Post
They never said " At this time." Simply that you can't go back.
I never said they said it. I said remember that phrase. In MMOs everything changes. Remember when they said you couldn't change your appearance/race? Remember when they said there was no player housing? Remember?

Quote: Originally Posted by Jimvinny View Post
As for how easily they changed the AC, they also leveled to 60 instantly, and eliminated the internal cool down for an ability. Are you telling me those features are coming soon too? Am I going to be able to spam death field over and over with no CD? How about master strike?
Don't be purposefully dense. It makes you look bad.
The fact that they reset the AC shows that there is no "technical limitation" to doing it. The fact that you currently cannot do so in game is simply because they choose to not let you do so. "At this time.".
If you seek answers, you must always ask questions. - Master Vandar Tokare.

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