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10.02.2014 , 12:09 AM | #61
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10.02.2014 , 02:24 AM | #62
I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around how clearing to the last boss, disbanding and making 8 groups instead of one isn't an exploit, but stealthing to the end of a FP and then inviting people for the final boss is. Both are giving the group the ability to skip all but the last boss in the content. I fully expect that the people doing it will be all "It's not an exploit, because you can do it in game"...

Not that it matters to me, cheat, not a cheat, the rewards are irrelevant to anything I do, so more power to you. I will, howver, be having some popcorn from my private stash if they decide that it is indeed an exploit, and try to fix it. I wonder how much rage will be generated. Will we need our asbestos suits to come near the forums?

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Kalfear
10.02.2014 , 01:11 PM | #63
Quote: Originally Posted by robertthebard View Post
I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around how clearing to the last boss, disbanding and making 8 groups instead of one isn't an exploit, but stealthing to the end of a FP and then inviting people for the final boss is. Both are giving the group the ability to skip all but the last boss in the content. I fully expect that the people doing it will be all "It's not an exploit, because you can do it in game"...

Not that it matters to me, cheat, not a cheat, the rewards are irrelevant to anything I do, so more power to you. I will, howver, be having some popcorn from my private stash if they decide that it is indeed an exploit, and try to fix it. I wonder how much rage will be generated. Will we need our asbestos suits to come near the forums?
During the week I agree should be fixed

But person I was replying to was talking about opening day points and you cant do that opening day
If you run to last boss Monday night and then come back opening day Tuesday to do that
ITS FULLY RESET

His complaint was these guilds with millions day 1 and he cited this abuse as part of the way to get the opening day numbers.

I suppose some guild could run Tuesday after servers go up and do that but from what Ive seen hes complaining about the points gathered BEFORE they can do that.

Point blank he said the crafting numbers were a lie and I showed clearly they are not (even on the worst points of the week selection).

Doing that exploit is clearly abuse but its not apart of the opening day numbers he was whining about.
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10.02.2014 , 01:22 PM | #64
Quote: Originally Posted by Kalfear View Post
During the week I agree should be fixed

But person I was replying to was talking about opening day points and you cant do that opening day
If you run to last boss Monday night and then come back opening day Tuesday to do that
ITS FULLY RESET

His complaint was these guilds with millions day 1 and he cited this abuse as part of the way to get the opening day numbers.

I suppose some guild could run Tuesday after servers go up and do that but from what Ive seen hes complaining about the points gathered BEFORE they can do that.

Point blank he said the crafting numbers were a lie and I showed clearly they are not (even on the worst points of the week selection).

Doing that exploit is clearly abuse but its not apart of the opening day numbers he was whining about.
The only way to get several hundred thousand (or more) points in the first hour or two of a conquest event is to prepare a crafting bomb ahead of time. It is a strategy most everyone who intends to win an event uses. It's not a secret.

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MeNaCe-NZ
10.02.2014 , 01:47 PM | #65
It's easily fixable too a shame BW don't do it when you see some of the more unimportant crap that does get fixed.

Quite simply code it that the crafting finishes and any points are applicable when it actually finishes even if offline thus people can't queue it up 8 hours ahead of time or what not. Granted people could still queue it up a few hours ahead of time so an even better solution could be have it only record crafting started during the actual event.

Neither of these would probably happen but again, easy enough fixes.

Also minor stuff compared to the current operation exploit.

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BrianDavion
10.02.2014 , 04:16 PM | #66
Quote: Originally Posted by Rambeezy View Post
Some of yall need to check up on your demographics. The ammount of misinformation going on is terrifying. First, its not the big guilds (50+ active players) that take full advantage (nim) of operations, its small guilds with 16 active players. 2nd yall claim to need crafting in order to compete with these so called 50+ player big guilds yet it is the 100+ guilds that use crafting to make it impossible for small guilds to ever compete. Tsk tsk

P.s. can we please get brackets for conquest? Why is conquest left out of the idea that you cant have a 150v50 battle be balanced?

problem is that your small guold may have 500 characters in em but it's basicl;y only 25 accounts of which only 15 are regularly active. . while your small 20 man guild may have 20 active players. a bracketing system would likely work poorly. and as it is you're STILL going to only see the top bracket allowed to CONQUER a planet. a smallish 20 man guild however assuming they're working on it should be able to keep on the leaderboard

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MeNaCe-NZ
10.02.2014 , 05:33 PM | #67
Small guilds choose to be small guilds, if you want to do well at conquest it's fairly clear what needs to be done. Small guilds can choose to become big guilds or not whinge about not doing so well at conquest. Heck there's nothing even stopping you pilfering players from other guilds if you think you can attract them *shows some leg*.

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Kalfear
10.02.2014 , 10:49 PM | #68
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthTHC View Post
The only way to get several hundred thousand (or more) points in the first hour or two of a conquest event is to prepare a crafting bomb ahead of time. It is a strategy most everyone who intends to win an event uses. It's not a secret.
I know this
I do it myself

but OP was claiming that the pre crafting was a lie and didnt work in his post (opening post or follow up, forget now and to lazy to look)
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AshlaBoga
10.03.2014 , 12:54 AM | #69
Quote: Originally Posted by siegeshot View Post
So we had 4 guilds on our server start up conquests morning-of with 400k+ conquest points per... all choose a different planet... soo... yeay... how long until this is FIXED so someone else can maybe get first place?
As far as I can tell, this is how BW intends for it to be: Conquests = Crafting + some other stuff
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keimox
10.03.2014 , 01:19 AM | #70
Quote: Originally Posted by siegeshot View Post
So we had 4 guilds on our server start up conquests morning-of with 400k+ conquest points per... all choose a different planet... soo... yeay... how long until this is FIXED so someone else can maybe get first place?
Mega guilds with 150-250 unique accounts quit doing this when they have all achievements for conquering planets. So expect it to take a while.
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