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DarthTHC
10.01.2014 , 01:50 PM | #41
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs View Post
Yeah, you two are obviously right...thinking someone might win these through crafting is silly...right? There's no chance people are spending real money to win these...especially when the math proves that it would be really expensive, assuming of course they aren't also using gathering toons like a normal person would. I must have been mistaken since I'm sure it's easy to get 8 million points as a guild doing anything besides crafting. I don't know what I was thinking...glad you two are here to prove there's no issues at all with crafting.
Perhaps you have a hard time reading my posts. I've never argued that these can be won via crafting. In fact, I have in the past suggested that it might be possible for a single credit-rich, enterprising player to beat a whole guild by crafting.

My argument is that people are not using real money the way you fear they are. They're not "paying to win", because that costs too much. Focus on the message.

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10.01.2014 , 01:57 PM | #42
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Perhaps you have a hard time reading my posts. I've never argued that these can be won via crafting. In fact, I have in the past suggested that it might be possible for a single credit-rich, enterprising player to beat a whole guild by crafting.

My argument is that people are not using real money the way you fear they are. They're not "paying to win", because that costs too much. Focus on the message.
Too much for who? You? Everyone? Do you now speak for everyone playing? Where are your facts? Sources? Metrics? Or are you basing this on your own personal beliefs?
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10.01.2014 , 02:04 PM | #43
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Too much for who? You? Everyone? Do you now speak for everyone playing? Where are your facts? Sources? Metrics? Or are you basing this on your own personal beliefs?
How much do you think players are going to drop to win a conquest? How many players do you think are going to drop an extra $100 a week to do it?

Some might.

There is no way it's anywhere near as widespread as you'd like us to fear. You can see evidence of that in the relative scarcity of Cartel Pack items on the GTN.

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10.01.2014 , 02:07 PM | #44
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How much do you think players are going to drop to win a conquest? How many players do you think are going to drop an extra $100 a week to do it?

Some might.

There is no way it's anywhere near as widespread as you'd like us to fear. You can see evidence of that in the relative scarcity of Cartel Pack items on the GTN.
I'm not trying to scare anyone, I'm simply explaining why I doubt they'll change a thing. And yeah, I think more than a few players are willing to drop a couple extra hundred a month.
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10.01.2014 , 02:10 PM | #45
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Too much for who? You? Everyone? Do you now speak for everyone playing? Where are your facts? Sources? Metrics? Or are you basing this on your own personal beliefs?
TUX you do realize that if people started trying to sell cartel packs on the scale you are suggesting, that the supply would rapidly outsource the demand which would in turn drive down the market price for packs, which would in turn require selling more products to reach the credit goal which would only drive the price down further.

economics!
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Costello
10.01.2014 , 02:11 PM | #46
I don't think its a major problem. Conquest is fairly dull once the big guilds have the rewards they aren't going to keep zerging to get the highest score.

There is nothing special about conquest no walking across battlefields of slain enemies no orbital bombardments. Its a few titles and rehashing older content, crafting, PvP or a few ops. All of this can be done with or without conquest so yeah it can suck that the big guilds have a massive advantage but that is the way BW want it.

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10.01.2014 , 02:16 PM | #47
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TUX you do realize that if people started trying to sell cartel packs on the scale you are suggesting, that the supply would rapidly outsource the demand which would in turn drive down the market price for packs, which would in turn require selling more products to reach the credit goal which would only drive the price down further.

economics!
Yeah, which is why packs have dropped from 240k ea on my server to 124K on some days.
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10.01.2014 , 02:27 PM | #48
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I'm not trying to scare anyone, I'm simply explaining why I doubt they'll change a thing. And yeah, I think more than a few players are willing to drop a couple extra hundred a month.
So your concern is that people are dropping real money to win at conquest which looks exactly like placing top 10 except for a very temporary Orbital Strike, an equally temporary Walker Mount, and a permanent Title?

Basically they're dropping a bunch of money for a title and epeen?

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10.01.2014 , 02:30 PM | #49
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Yeah, which is why packs have dropped from 240k ea on my server to 124K on some days.
I watched them fall as far as 95k .... It is happening...

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10.01.2014 , 02:33 PM | #50
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthTHC View Post
So your concern is that people are dropping real money to win at conquest which looks exactly like placing top 10 except for a very temporary Orbital Strike, an equally temporary Walker Mount, and a permanent Title?

Basically they're dropping a bunch of money for a title and epeen?
Unlike you, I really don't care why the hell they're doing it. I'm simply pointing out that the advantage crafting has right now is absolutely ludicrous!!!
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