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Wow, going to fix Conquests?

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TUXs
10.01.2014 , 08:45 AM | #21
Quote: Originally Posted by Zoom_VI View Post
Yeah, I think this is the main problem people have with conquest.

Merge or lose!
Craft or lose. It's not about size, it's how many items you can craft that matter.
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Zoom_VI
10.01.2014 , 08:48 AM | #22
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs View Post
Craft or lose. It's not about size, it's how many items you can craft that matter.
Which is the only redeeming quality about conquest.

conquests should be about who puts the most effort into it, not who throws the most accounts at it.
Crinn

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ThomasCool
10.01.2014 , 08:51 AM | #23
You may say what you want about how it should be the guild with the best players not the guild with the most but

"Quantity has a quality of its own" - Attributed to Joseph Stalin

And in war, that certainly is true

T.
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TUXs
10.01.2014 , 08:53 AM | #24
Quote: Originally Posted by Zoom_VI View Post
Which is the only redeeming quality about conquest.

conquests should be about who puts the most effort into it, not who throws the most accounts at it.
Effort? What are you talking about? Are you honestly suggesting that crafting takes any effort at all? You queue it up and log off!!! Running an Ops? That takes "effort". Maybe not for you if all you do is hook up with people who are putting effort into it, but it sure as hell takes effort from the guy who starts the group. It also requires you to be ATK to do an Ops/FP/Heroic, even if the damn thing is 45 levels below you...crafting is the P2W way to do conquests and the only one you can do while offline. How the hell do you call that "effort"?
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DOHboy
10.01.2014 , 08:54 AM | #25
WHAT!! THEY BROKE CONQUESTS?!?!

oh wait, this is a WHAA WHAA thread on how 8 people can not do the same level of effort 80 people.

our Guild with 100+ active accounts rate of participation is about 30% with all the alts and we're mainly in the top 10 week over week. Wont be #1 unless we get closer to 75% participation. We're primarily a raiding/crafting guild so certain weeks helps us more than others.

It is purely a numbers game, unless they implement some stupid idea of a graduated rewards scale where small guilds get more rewards and larger guilds get less (NO THIS IS NOT A SUGGESTION...HORRIBLE HORRIBLE IDEA). Larger guilds with larger participation will do better than larger guilds with less participation which will do better than small guilds with large participation and small guilds with little or no participation.

Might we tell people they can't run fast in a race? perhaps construction companies can only hire so many people so they build buildings the same speed as others. Maybe have a weight lifting competition where the weight never increases and everyone has to do 1 rep at a set weight (that everyone can lift). Only clones can be in beauty competitions so that every one looks the same? Why not make a baking contest with the same recipe? Musicians have to play the same song?

if we're going to make it accessible to everyone why not just take the "win" out of it and everyone just gets the joy of accomplishing nothing and only the entertainment value from it. No points, no score, no race, no time frame..

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Rambeezy
10.01.2014 , 09:09 AM | #26
Some of yall need to check up on your demographics. The ammount of misinformation going on is terrifying. First, its not the big guilds (50+ active players) that take full advantage (nim) of operations, its small guilds with 16 active players. 2nd yall claim to need crafting in order to compete with these so called 50+ player big guilds yet it is the 100+ guilds that use crafting to make it impossible for small guilds to ever compete. Tsk tsk

P.s. can we please get brackets for conquest? Why is conquest left out of the idea that you cant have a 150v50 battle be balanced?

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Foambreaker
10.01.2014 , 09:41 AM | #27
Quote: Originally Posted by jedip_enguin View Post
They queued up a load of crafting jobs and logged toons after the event started, there is nothing broken here.
But But But... MATS ARE FREE!!!

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TUXs
10.01.2014 , 09:43 AM | #28
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But But But... MATS ARE FREE!!!
Mats are of zero concern. L2P2W...buy packs, collect scraps, profit.
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Zoom_VI
10.01.2014 , 10:16 AM | #29
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs View Post
Effort? What are you talking about? Are you honestly suggesting that crafting takes any effort at all? You queue it up and log off!!! Running an Ops? That takes "effort". Maybe not for you if all you do is hook up with people who are putting effort into it, but it sure as hell takes effort from the guy who starts the group. It also requires you to be ATK to do an Ops/FP/Heroic, even if the damn thing is 45 levels below you...crafting is the P2W way to do conquests and the only one you can do while offline. How the hell do you call that "effort"?
Maintaining the resources for crafting requires far more effort than going to your minimap and pressing the queue button.

Maybe if spamming flashpoints, heroics, and warzones was actually hard you might have a point.
Crinn

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Zoom_VI
10.01.2014 , 10:17 AM | #30
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs View Post
Mats are of zero concern. L2P2W...buy packs, collect scraps, profit.
Such a great plan, "Crafting doesn't cost anything, just spend RL currency"
Crinn

Sanity is for the weak minded.