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3.0 information today?? PLEASE!!!!!!!!
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Gnoblesse
09.29.2014 , 10:18 PM | #401
Quote: Originally Posted by Darth_Wicked View Post
And by tomorrow, a full year will have gone by without a single new operation, this of course in addition to over a full year without new flashpoints, outside the tactical ones.

Good days indeed.

Dunno about PvP; Not my field of expertise.
One new ground based 8v8 warzone map since the end of 2012. And it was a redesign of an existing game type.
And arenas. But for people who enjoy 8v8 objective warzones...one. Since 2012.

Quote: Originally Posted by prncssinblutx View Post
Bioware does so much for us to give us new content to go through. We need to stop complaining and let them do what they need to do so they can give us the content we might enjoy. I can't wait to hear what they have planned for the new expansion that is coming out.

I mean this with all due respect, but I do not need to be told what I *need* to do. Do you follow people around at restaurants and tell them how much they need to tip? If not, why tell people here whether or not they should be happy with a service they're paying for? (Just for the record, I ALWAYS try to tip generously, because I know that some other people are cheapskates and I try to make up for it at least as much as I can.)

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Xandramos
09.29.2014 , 11:48 PM | #402
Tactical flashpoints are one of the best ideas The dev team ever had. it allowed lower levels to join in the fun with uber players.
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Jboath
09.30.2014 , 12:08 AM | #403
Will we be able to preorder this and get access to the crystal vendor?

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ivanhedgehog
09.30.2014 , 12:14 AM | #404
Quote: Originally Posted by Jboath View Post
Will we be able to preorder this and get access to the crystal vendor?
why bother? the pre order crystal is useful for 3 whole levels
wow

assuming you have an orange weapon to put it in..if not, you can use a cc crystal that is awesomely better in the weapon you get at the end of your starter planet

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RandyL
09.30.2014 , 12:20 AM | #405
Quote: Originally Posted by Xandramos View Post
Tactical flashpoints are one of the best ideas The dev team ever had. it allowed lower levels to join in the fun with uber players.
Except that they were not implemented this way in the game. A 55 cannot do a tactical flashpoint through group finder with lower levels. Though they are good for running with less geared 55s in most cases.

Back to the subject of the thread, BW bungled the release of 3.0 information as many others have stated. It's really as simple as that. And I doubt we'll see this expansion before 2015. So stop trying to fool the players, it's just going to make people hate you more later when you announce the delay.

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CommanderKeeva
09.30.2014 , 12:21 AM | #406
Quote: Originally Posted by EricMusco View Post
This is a great question (or questions?), that I think are on a lot of folks minds. As you can imagine I can't go too deep into the rabbit hole in talking about our internal processes but I can give it a go.

In short, the process we go through internally to announce something as big as an expansion is actually quite complex and extensive. Although you are correct in that the end process may be a video, a landing page with some copy, etc. the process to get there requires a large amount of moving parts across multiple teams. Aside from just the assets and webpages there is arguably one of the most important aspects of these types of announcements, the game!

By the time we announce we have to have a concrete idea of what will be coming in the game with the expansion, what types of perks we might give our subscribers, etc. Unfortunately with so many moving parts, we can sometimes run into the scenario like we did today. If we are not 100% confident in what we are going to put out, for a multitude of possible reasons, it can lead to a delay of announcement.

I would caution not to read too deep into what I said above. It is somewhere in the cog of those moving parts that this delay happened, but ultimately our goal remains the same: to get you as many details about this expansion as soon as we can!

-eric
Sorry, it's my nature to dig deeply into posts. I can accept if information is getting delayed for whatever reason, it's your game after all, you develop it however you want it, but I don't understand it.

People aren't asking you to reveal the exact number of NPCs on the new planets or the exact nature of class changes, all of those are still subject to change this early (??) in the development process. The questions many people (myself included) would like to see answered:

- Will there be a level cap increase and if so, by how much? Are we getting new class skills?
- How many new planets are there going to be? Are you going to continue class stories?
- Are you going to release a new Operation?
- Are you going to add new Warzones or Arenas?

Now, these are the core concepts and the foundation any expansion is built upon. You are saying that you're planning on launching the new expansion this year. And yet you are unwilling or unable to answer these fundamental questions in less than 3 months before the supposed launch. Forget the announcement delay, there has to be something fundamentally wrong with the expansion if you're unable to share such basic information this late. That, in itself, is far more worrisome than a simple delay because it means you're still unsure about critical details regarding the new expansion.

I mean look at the timeframe here. A "couple of more weeks" means that you're not going to reveal anything before the 14th of October. If it's a paid expansion and you have any sort of financial sense or marketing strategy, you're not going to release it after Christmas. So in the best possible scenario, we're looking at a timeframe of 2 months and 1 week to announce, market, preorder, playtest and correct the bugs, based on player feedback. That's just not enough for a full, paid expansion. I mean Blizzard announced WoD more than a YEAR before its launch and you're going to go with lousy 2 months?

I am having a very hard time believing this is going to be a paid expansion that is coming this year. Either it's getting broken up into smaller segments (3.1; 3.2; 3.3) and you're releasing the first part in December, in which case it's not going to be a paid expansion, or you're holding the whole thing back and launching it sometime next year. I don't see any other option here. But the longer you're going to remain tight-lipped about this, the more untenable this farce is going to be become.
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RandyL
09.30.2014 , 12:41 AM | #407
Quote: Originally Posted by CommanderKeeva View Post
- Will there be a level cap increase and if so, by how much? Are we getting new class skills?
- How many new planets are there going to be? Are you going to continue class stories?
- Are you going to release a new Operation?
- Are you going to add new Warzones or Arenas?
I'll speculate and you can place bets on the accuracy of it. Level cap to 60. One new skill per class. 1 planet, with a questline similar to Makeb, with no continuation of individual class stories. 1 new operation. 1 warzone. 1 arena. 1 starfighter map. All coming to you sometime in Q1 2015. Additional elements will get pushed off to later patches.

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emeraldon
09.30.2014 , 01:07 AM | #408
Quote: Originally Posted by RandyL View Post
I'll speculate and you can place bets on the accuracy of it. Level cap to 60. One new skill per class. 1 planet, with a questline similar to Makeb, with no continuation of individual class stories. 1 new operation. 1 warzone. 1 arena. 1 starfighter map. All coming to you sometime in Q1 2015. Additional elements will get pushed off to later patches.
Usually I'm the cynical guy who would disagree just for the hell of it - but this sadly seems to be more and more the case.
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Atlanis
09.30.2014 , 01:09 AM | #409
Quote: Originally Posted by EricMusco View Post
This is a great question (or questions?), that I think are on a lot of folks minds. As you can imagine I can't go too deep into the rabbit hole in talking about our internal processes but I can give it a go.

In short, the process we go through internally to announce something as big as an expansion is actually quite complex and extensive. Although you are correct in that the end process may be a video, a landing page with some copy, etc. the process to get there requires a large amount of moving parts across multiple teams. Aside from just the assets and webpages there is arguably one of the most important aspects of these types of announcements, the game!

By the time we announce we have to have a concrete idea of what will be coming in the game with the expansion, what types of perks we might give our subscribers, etc. Unfortunately with so many moving parts, we can sometimes run into the scenario like we did today. If we are not 100% confident in what we are going to put out, for a multitude of possible reasons, it can lead to a delay of announcement.

I would caution not to read too deep into what I said above. It is somewhere in the cog of those moving parts that this delay happened, but ultimately our goal remains the same: to get you as many details about this expansion as soon as we can!

-eric
Thx, for elaborating. I am patient, just gonna go on the Wiesn for with week^^

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Heat-Wave
09.30.2014 , 01:32 AM | #410
Quote: Originally Posted by Tatile View Post
The more you beg, the more you kick and scream, the more you say please and hammer SHIFT+1, the more Mr. Musco and Mr. Tait laugh and laugh and laugh...

...and Ms. Woods and Ms. Nicole laugh and laugh and laugh...

...and laugh...

and say no.
True... right up until we start unsubbing... It only works for so long...

We have over 200 accounts in our guild, I've never seen so many F2P players as I have since GSH launched... The subs are leaving and being replaced by F2P... at least from what I can see...