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3.0 information today?? PLEASE!!!!!!!!
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Pietrastor
09.29.2014 , 05:09 PM | #331
Quote: Originally Posted by EricMusco View Post

I would caution not to read too deep into what I said above. It is somewhere in the cog of those moving parts that this delay happened, but ultimately our goal remains the same: to get you as many details about this expansion as soon as we can!

-eric
There's also outside context, meaning blockbuster Holiday gaming titles that start to roll out next month and which will dominate the news till Christmas, so let's hope this announcement really comes soon, otherwise it will get overshadowed heavily and little chance to grab new players/old subs

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Infernixx
09.29.2014 , 05:11 PM | #332
Quote: Originally Posted by ghoul_drool View Post
Your efforts to ridicule any and all criticism get more conspicuous with each post you make.
Constructive, rational criticism will always get plenty of respect from me.

Raging about a 'delay' in an announcement is in no way constructive or rational and I will gleefully give it all the respect it deserves.

Crafters complaining about a lack of relevance before the GSH patch? Rational and appropriate.

PVPers complaining about a lack of quality rewards for Ranked play before the Rancor mount? Very appropriate and reasonable complaining.

This? This stuff is ridiculous and a prime example of why BW doesn't release info that might change. Because people will lose their minds over a delay of an announcement. Just imagine how insane they'd get over relevant information being changed after being released.
Quote: Originally Posted by EricMusco View Post
Infernixx nailed it. This is correct.
Quote: Originally Posted by CosmicKat View Post
There is no excuse for any single use item to ever cost more than a month's subscription. Anyone who pays $10 or $20 for a single use item is hastening the death of TOR and feeding the rise of TOR:The Cash Shop Menace.

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ZionHalcyon
09.29.2014 , 05:11 PM | #333
Quote: Originally Posted by ghoul_drool View Post
Your efforts to ridicule any and all criticism get more conspicuous with each post you make.
yeah, that isn't exactly lost on me either, especially post-gamer-gate...

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Trollokdamus
09.29.2014 , 05:12 PM | #334
I wonder what's the real reason of the delay. Is it
Quote: Originally Posted by BruceMaclean View Post
to add something really nice for subscribers.
or they
Quote: Originally Posted by EricMusco View Post
just want to make sure all of the information is correct
?

Quote: Originally Posted by SebastiaanZ View Post
Still unacceptable. Very disappointed in Eric Musco and Bruce Maclean.
Musco is just a Community Manager, he doesn't make any decisions concerning this game.

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ZionHalcyon
09.29.2014 , 05:12 PM | #335
Quote: Originally Posted by Infernixx View Post
Constructive, rational criticism will always get plenty of respect from me.

Raging about a 'delay' in an announcement is in no way constructive or rational and I will gleefully give it all the respect it deserves.

Crafters complaining about a lack of relevance before the GSH patch? Rational and appropriate.

PVPers complaining about a lack of quality rewards for Ranked play before the Rancor mount? Very appropriate and reasonable complaining.

This? This stuff is ridiculous and a prime example of why BW doesn't release info that might change. Because people will lose their minds over a delay of an announcement. Just imagine how insane they'd get over relevant information being changed after being released.
nice loop hole you made for yourself there, when those of us who have experience with you know that you view any and all criticism as irrational.

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Infernixx
09.29.2014 , 05:13 PM | #336
Quote: Originally Posted by ZionHalcyon View Post
nice loop hole you made for yourself there, when those of us who have experience with you know that you view any and all criticism as irrational.
Do try to focus on the thread and not on me, hmm?
Quote: Originally Posted by EricMusco View Post
Infernixx nailed it. This is correct.
Quote: Originally Posted by CosmicKat View Post
There is no excuse for any single use item to ever cost more than a month's subscription. Anyone who pays $10 or $20 for a single use item is hastening the death of TOR and feeding the rise of TOR:The Cash Shop Menace.

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magicallypuzzled
09.29.2014 , 05:15 PM | #337
frankly it only makes sense if it's a minor thing or 2 (i refuse to believe the the expansion is crap and everyone will unsub from just the announcement bullcrap.) which makes it all the more annoying that they won't just announce what they are sure of and are instead trying to say that a perfect latter announcement is better than an imperfect current one which is a load of bull as far as i am concerned. though really it's fine this isn't worth getting mad about and once it is released i'll be happy so i'll just do something else for a few weeks and check back up on it later. oh who am i kidding i'll be check each and every day hoping that they will have released it if not every hour.

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davidp_newton
09.29.2014 , 05:16 PM | #338
Quote: Originally Posted by Infernixx View Post
This is what I love about these forums. An announcement gets delayed and all of sudden, you have two dozen people running in circles, gnashing their teeth and rending their sackcloth and proclaiming that the next expansion is DOOMED.
It is not doomed: however this is a major setback to its prospects. They are not able to tell us what the new level cap is. They are not able to tell us how many new operations there will be. They are not able to tell us how many new warzones there will be. They are not able to tell us how many planets are in the single player section of the expansion.

The expansion is supposed to be released this year. There are 3 months and 1 day left of this year as I write this post. Of that time period one sixth or so is already removed by their announcement postponement. In addition Christmas takes another week away, meaning that is 3 weeks not available: pretty much one quarter of the time remaining in the year is therefore gone which leaves 9 weeks or so. During that 9 weeks there would have to be any public playtesting, a pre-order period and all the marketing hype. Since the PTS is typically shut down a week or so before any release of a normal patch that reduces the period available for public testing to 8 weeks at maximum.

So tell me how likely it is that a major expansion is going to get sorted out in that time and generate sufficient interest and hype to be a commercial success?

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MKnightRider
09.29.2014 , 05:20 PM | #339
Quote: Originally Posted by davidp_newton View Post
It is not doomed: however this is a major setback to its prospects. They are not able to tell us what the new level cap is. They are not able to tell us how many new operations there will be. They are not able to tell us how many new warzones there will be. They are not able to tell us how many planets are in the single player section of the expansion.

The expansion is supposed to be released this year. There are 3 months and 1 day left of this year as I write this post. Of that time period one sixth or so is already removed by their announcement postponement. In addition Christmas takes another week away, meaning that is 3 weeks not available: pretty much one quarter of the time remaining in the year is therefore gone which leaves 9 weeks or so. During that 9 weeks there would have to be any public playtesting, a pre-order period and all the marketing hype. Since the PTS is typically shut down a week or so before any release of a normal patch that reduces the period available for public testing to 8 weeks at maximum.

So tell me how likely it is that a major expansion is going to get sorted out in that time and generate sufficient interest and hype to be a commercial success?
My thoughts exactly.

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Darth_Wicked
09.29.2014 , 05:21 PM | #340
And by tomorrow, a full year will have gone by without a single new operation, this of course in addition to over a full year without new flashpoints, outside the tactical ones.

Good days indeed.

Dunno about PvP; Not my field of expertise.