So can we make Decoration drops bound already?

Getting more than a little sick of only having a 1/4 chance (or 1/8, 1/16 for Operations) at decoration drops simply because even the people who don't want it/already have it are mashing that Need button and then immediately throwing it up for sale on the GTN trying to make a quick buck.


Already had multiple Operations where someone has won a stack of decorations from the final boss and rather than split them (as was asked pre-Op and pre-fight) quit group and vanished, as well as players only rolling at all because they want money. It may as well just be a credit chit like the Conquest reward for them.


Most FP/Operation drops are bound. Most cosmetics are bound. You don't see players hocking their Avalanche Tanks on the GTN nor Crest of the Dread Masters, or much of anything because it's all bound. And because it's bound, they don't Need and take away from players who are actually going to use said items since it'll no longer have a $ benefit.


There shouldn't be a market for items you can get without actually going and earning them, and for most drops this remains true. Decorations right now are an exception and need to be brought in line, enough said.


The mere fact that I'm better off soloing group content in an MMO is a testament to how bad this is right now.

Just another Need vs. Greed argument that will never get resolved.

While I certainly don't agree with the people that need on stuff just to vendor/GTN it, there really isn't any way around it. Their 'need' may be different from yours, but it's a need none the less.

Example: they need on a decoration that sells for 500k on the GTN. They sell it, get the 500k and use that money to buy a speeder they want.

Sure, you want the actual decoration, not the potential money it can bring you. But someone else sees that decoration as a way to get something else they want. Your need isn't greater than theirs.

(Outlandish) Real life example: there's 1 apple and 0 oranges left at the grocery store. You and someone else go for the apple. You decide to roll some dice (lol) to see who gets it. The other person wins. But they go trade it for an orange, because they actually wanted an orange. Your need and their need for the apple is the same because you both had a use for it. His use was just different than yours.

Making decorations bound would also stop people from being able to trade/sell them after they've got enough of that certain decoration. I mean.. if you and the other 3, 7 or 15 people didn't want a decoration that dropped, whoever won it would be forced to vendor or for like 500 credits when it could be worth 500k on the GTN.

Kinda get it?

The only solution would be to use Master Looter in Ops, which most PUG groups are against. Or to run Flashpoints with your guild/friends and have an agreement before going in.

This is even more pointless than the usual need vs. greed arguments. Simply put, these items do not provide any material advantage and are not class-optimized. If you want it, "Need" it. Then you are free to do as you please with it. Didn't win the roll? So sorry, please try again. We all want things that are somewhat inconvenient to get.

Run with a guild. Problem solved.

This is why I usually do guild runs for Operations (and sometimes FPs too).

Roll last. If anyone rolls Need, roll Need. If someone else is obviously waiting out the timer, assume they're going to roll Need and roll Need.

No, just no, don't be so greedy OP.

And those that actually click need to use in their stronghold get called 'ninja'
i was in a KP group earlier this week, and the Hutt Flagg deco dropped a couple of times,
i won a need roll twice (everyone was needing) and was accused of ninja'ing because apparently there is an unwritten rule that once you won a decoration you can't need on that decoration again within the same group.
I was unaware of this, no looting rules were stated before the start or during the raid, only after i won that flag a second time some other players started namecalling.
I apologized and said i would pass on everything else ( i already passed on everything else that dropped before to as i didn't need the gear that dropped there, i was just there for weekly and deco's) and i did pass on all the rest, even the pets that dropped, so i kept my word, but i didn't feel like i had to give one of those 2 flags to someone else.
was i wrong there? because people still called me a ninja.

That's just what people do when they don't get what they want. You did nothing wrong, IMO. Everyone has equal rights to roll for the item(s) they want unless agreed otherwise beforehand. Plus, again, cosmetic stuff... what's the big deal?

Awww, did somebody roll need on your flower pot?