ETA on Advanced Class change?

ACs aren't completely different classes.

Because its lazy? You want to play another class? Level it up. Tired of tanking and want to heal? Level up a damn healer.

... and name-calling. Your skills are now complete. Note that in other games like wow it is perfectly possible for one character to switch from tank to healer to dps. And sentinels can tank many fps including kdy just fine.

Erm....not the best example to use in your argument. I like FFXIV's single character concept, however, you still have to level everything. Its not like you can take a black mage to 50 and then swap weapons and be a 50 monk. No, if you switch weapons to a monk and never leveled one, guess what? You're level one now.

Also FFXIV has a two tier system just like SWTOR. You have your class up to level 30 then you do the questline to get your crystal for your job going from say a pugilist to a monk. On top of that you need a sub class. Monk for example needs a level 30 pugilist and a level 15 lancer in order to be able to get the monk quest.

I like FFXIV's system, but at the end of the day you still have to level each class/job individually. So really the concept is exactly the same, as it should be.



Again, are you people really going to say that a 30m ranged class is the same as a melee stealther? Come on guys, this is kind of pathetic. Assassin and sorcerer are nothing alike. Oh and since this seems to be a common argument of ignorance (not counting things like interrupt/cc breaker/buff/heal since thats baseline with all classes) they share a total of 11 abilities, some of which are not used depending on the class. A sorc is never going to be using saber strike or thrash and an assassin rarely uses force lightning (incredibly situational).

The assassin alone has 30 unique skills/abilities. Soooo ya, not even close to sharing a large amount of skills. They are fundamentally two completely different classes.



Because its lazy? You want to play another class? Level it up. Tired of tanking and want to heal? Level up a damn healer.

The fact that this keeps getting repeated makes me believe most of you have no idea how to play this game. I can't believe anyone here could say with a straight face that something like say a sniper and an operative are not two completely different classes. They play nothing alike.

They need to improve AC design so they actually feel like classes instead of simply specs. Then I believe the requests to swap ACs would diminish substantially.

Sniper is a 35m ranged class. Operative is stealth melee class. Merc is a 30m ranged class turret. PT is a melee class. Sage is a 30m caster. Assassins is a melee stealth class. Jugg/Marauder are the only classes that are even remotely similar to each other, and even then they play differently enough to distinquish the two as being unique classes.

Every single AC plays fundamentally different. They are different classes. The fact that anyone is even comparing any of them to being similar is insane.

The "problem" is people don't want to put any effort into anything. The other AC is now FOTM so they want to switch and have free reign. I mean damn, at this point why don't we just get free 180 gear to? I no longer feel like tanking. Can I pay to "respec" my gear to full dps set? The logic is exactly the same.

SPEC IS NOT A CLASS.

Why are you incapable of understanding this? Specs are not designed to be classes, rarely if ever are they designed and presented as unique classes....they are designed as SPECS, in order to support roles.

Are you disputing the very definition of spec and role? Somehow spec is now class?

SPECS play fundamentally different in almost all games that have specs. That does NOT make them individual classes, and the contention that a spec is a class is rather foolish IMO.

The problem is bad design, compounded by ridiculous arguments that justify bad design.

AC's are NOT specs. That is the most idiotic thing ever to suggest. Each AC is its own class. An operative is not a sniper just like in other MMO's a rogue is not a ranger.

I didn't say ACs are spec. You say fundamentally different play styles are classes. That is the one of the most foolish contentions anyone could EVER make. It proves to me you have no concept of what defines a class.

Clearly.

You are not helping.

You are making it harder to convince folks that AC change is a bad idea by making foolish judgmental arguments that have no basis in reality.