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I think I know why there's no Pazaak

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I think I know why there's no Pazaak

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errant_knight
08.30.2014 , 12:15 PM | #1
After talking to a friend about how gambling rings were formed in another mmo using the minigames, I think I have a handle on why there's no Pazaak. There isn't much in the game as it stands that could be bet on or used to create gambling. Pazaak would be different. We've seen how difficult it can be to control what people do with what they're given, incidents of exploits and even outright cheating. While they could probably find a way to make Pazaak function in a relatively non risky way against the house, people would want to be able to play each other, given that this is an mmo, and that could be wildly problematic.

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Varium
08.30.2014 , 12:19 PM | #2
Quote: Originally Posted by errant_knight View Post
After talking to a friend about how gambling rings were formed in another mmo using the minigames, I think I have a handle on why there's no Pazaak. There isn't much in the game as it stands that could be bet on or used to create gambling. Pazaak would be different. We've seen how difficult it can be to control what people do with what they're given, incidents of exploits and even outright cheating. While they could probably find a way to make Pazaak function in a relatively non risky way against the house, people would want to be able to play each other, given that this is an mmo, and that could be wildly problematic.
Or they are afraid of getting PG 18+ for having gambling (like they already don't have).
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Brainiacblue
08.30.2014 , 02:20 PM | #3
Quote: Originally Posted by Varium View Post
Or they are afraid of getting PG 18+ for having gambling (like they already don't have).
This - SWTOR cannot have proper gambling for credits because this game is pushing its age rating as it is.
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Janrek
08.30.2014 , 03:43 PM | #4
Isn't still technically gambling on KOTOR as well? I always thought it would be a nice mini-game which you could right-click on another player similar to dueling, it would be useful while waiting for the group finder que when someone leaves mid FP.

I suppose a bit of gambling would be okay, if they had a cap of say, 10k? Isn't the Nar Shadaa Casino technically considered gambling? I know dudes who blew millions of credits just trying to get lucky with a Rancor mount.

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Knorlac
08.30.2014 , 03:48 PM | #5
Quote: Originally Posted by Varium View Post
Or they are afraid of getting PG 18+ for having gambling (like they already don't have).
I admit I have no idea how the law sees this, but would it already constitute gambling in the legal sense if you can only bet ingame money? It would be IMO if credits could ONLY be obtained by converting real money.

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Janrek
08.30.2014 , 03:50 PM | #6
Good point. As long as the actual betting doesn't include CC's I think it would be fine.

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Capt_Beers
08.30.2014 , 04:29 PM | #7
Because they can't make money off of it. They wouldn't be able to add CC to pazaak with out all sorts of legal/rating crap to deal with so it would have to be done with credits. At this point if it can't be tied into the CM it's highly unlikely to be seen as worth the time/money to develop.

It might be possible that it could be in an expansion like 3.0 (i doubt it will be but if it's coming that's when it it will come) since the expansion will be a paid expansion.
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08.30.2014 , 04:36 PM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by Janrek View Post
I know dudes who blew millions of credits just trying to get lucky with a Rancor mount.
Umm yeah ...

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LyraineAlei
08.30.2014 , 04:37 PM | #9
I think it is for the same reason the Game Corner from the Pokemon games were remade/removed.

The stupid Moral Guardians of Society don't want gambling in kids games. *eyeroll* Because we all know how video games are for kids. Anyway, a **** load of parents and guardians will call/threaten legal action/actually sue/make a big **** storm over it in the media.

And BW would likely not want that plastered over them.

That being said, it would be nice to have Pazaak back.

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LeJarC
08.30.2014 , 04:39 PM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by Janrek View Post
Good point. As long as the actual betting doesn't include CC's I think it would be fine.
I'd go one step further, don't even tie any kind of reward or achievement or whatever to winning a game. Just let it be an activity to pass time and not a way to earn credits....or add it as a conquest objective win 10 games in a row on an invaded planet and get 1000 points.
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