I think sometimes Raiders need to be reminded a Flashpoint isn't an OP

In a tactical flashpoint, I really don’t care what anyone does. I pull if someone is slow and I play healers 90% of the time.

In a flashpoint, for the most part I don’t care. Geared now to the point I really don’t need to worry about tank or dps for that matter. However, if someone is showing up or disrespectful to any member of the group, then I ignore and forget. Gold fever dps is useless dps I don’t care what numbers they are putting out or what they can do. I will finish the flashpoint, but I will whisper the tank apologizing and suggesting they also use the ignore feature. See how fun running and gunning is when they are setting in group finder for hours on end waiting for a pop. I don’t care as heals I get from instant to 5 mins. There are too many good dps players to worry about a few jerks.

Yes, you are geared to the point now that you can tank a flashpoint in dps gear, so is most established players, you are not special or super skilled. If you want to tank, roll a tank. When the level cap increases this kind of behavior will get the group wiped, just like it did last time.

Again tactical, I don’t care about role or pulls, but in a group designed for roles let people do their job and don’t increase others frustration for your giggles.

Edit: Decided not to step into this mess.

Nope with the exception of sorcs all DcD are off the global cooldown, so you lose zero dps.

LOL I hear this claim all the time by self satisfied DPS
and 99% of the time its followed by

"@$#%@%$# where are my heals????"

Personally Ive only met a couple tanks that are ok with DPS running ahead and pulling no matter how easy a fight is.
And those Tanks usually require allot of work to be kept alive.

Truth is anyone can say anything on these forums no matter how outlandish
Got a DPS buddy whose in 180 gear who honestly thinks when hes in the flashpoint hes doing 90% of the work
I just laugh and shake my head because hes oblivious to what everyone else does.
Oblivious to how hard healers have to work to keep him alive
he honestly thinks he can solo CZ, Koriban, Tython because hes DPS and just that damn good

Hes completely wrong of course, but he will never admit it.

I run tactical and hm on 4 different characters every day so Ive seen how this works in game
DPS that run ahead are often kicked and often ignored by tanks and healers
Tanks and healers get a bigger leeway because they are in less supply then DPS players.
So DPS can claim this and that and yada yada yada

Truth is, for better or worse, DPS are a dime a dozen so there is no reason what so ever to put up with even a hint of ego or drama from them. You could fill your ignore list with DPS names and still not experience a raise in GF pop times.

You can not say the same thing for heals (who are in moderate demand)
and you most definitely can not say the same thing for Tanks (who are in huge demand)

And honestly anyone who thinks different is probably here complaining they get tossed or ignored for running ahead and not following the standard policies.

What DPSers dont seem to understand I find (and I have some DPS characters and always amazed at how some other DPSers just draw drama to them in every group they in) is you get a bad rep and put on ignore in Flashpoints by Healers and Tanks and your chances for OPS with that character (GF Ops anyways) diminishes greatly down the road.

But hey, keep thinking you're a special little flower that everyone has to accept and follow if thats what you want.
Just don't complain when you're shoved to the outside and left there looking in but unwanted.

We all make and earn our own reputations in game
Me, I prefer to go with no drama, no head aches, solid smart group
And now that I got many of the more problematic DPSers (and couple healers and even 1 tank) on ignore because of their idiotic behavior, my Tacticals and HMs experiences have risen hugely in quality.

Once you weed out the problem kids,
everything falls into place

Hell, I even get routinely thanks for teaching new players the flash points and routes and mechanics because most people I find are not out to cause drama and be a idiot by running ahead. They just wanna have fun with the group and beat the flashpoint, get their coms, move on to next content.

Yes, Zion, its me that is trolling. Of course.

I think a lot of posters have forgotten the OP was talking about storymode flashpoints and tacticals. Not hardmodes. Not operations. It's like apples and oranges

Yep, and I have even said as much. But hey, they are only proving my point about attitude in this game...

The only time I have ever said that was once when I was tanking where the healer deliberately wiped the group in order to "punish" me for pulling a unnecessary mob.

So like you haven't met many tanks. I usually get compliments on my tanking after the flashpoint is over.


So basically you decided that since tanks are hard to get, then therefore tanks are allowed to be self-entitled brats?



You say you avoid drama, yet a unorthodox pull does not generate drama, the only time pulling out of order generates drama is when you have self-entitled people who get their shirt all in a twist because it wasn't done the textbook way. And those people that intentionally wipe people in order to prove a point generate significantly more drama then the people they are punishing.


But hey you seem to run on the notion that I and others that share my philosophy wipe raids. I don't, if the group cannot handle a non-textbook pull, then I won't do a non-textbook pull, but if they can handle it, then you betcha that I will do it, because I don't have all day to wait on people who are fully capable of going faster.

If nobody dies, it doesn't matter want the pull order is.

Another person blaming lack of playtime for their thin skinnedness.

Agreed