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SW:TOR will experience the first ever overnight ecomonic crash of an MMO.

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SW:TOR will experience the first ever overnight ecomonic crash of an MMO.

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Tsillah
08.11.2014 , 02:19 PM | #121
Quote: Originally Posted by Comradebot View Post
Because if we don't introduce major credit sinks into the game inflation will make actually do what you fear and start making it inaccessible to new players (and even people returning after a lengthy hiatus)?
These are not proper credit sinks though. The strongholds and guild ships are sort of one time purchases. Once the rooms are unlocked the credit sink is gone.

Proper credit sinks are the ones that you keep using like repair costs, travel costs, mod removal costs, augmenting, GTN tax on sales and such.

So, I don't really see any new credit sinks. Just a single credit reset if you will. The gambling machines on Nar Shaddaa probable got people to spend more credits than 2.9 ever will.
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hadoken
08.11.2014 , 02:19 PM | #122
Quote: Originally Posted by ivanhedgehog View Post
and that is the big loss here. people feeling less likely to log in for days at a time, eventually just not logging in at all when they realize there really isnt anything to do that is less than 9 months old. people that dont want to be owpvp bait and the garbage associated with it.
Strongholds isn't "guild capital ship" it's actually significantly more than just that feature.

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Brewski
08.11.2014 , 02:21 PM | #123
Quote: Originally Posted by ivanhedgehog View Post
I dont see the devs responding to any problem, they just dont care.
Then you aren't really paying attention. There have been several responses and adjustments based on PTS feedback lately. Just because they aren't responding to the particular issues you want addressed, or in a way you like, is no excuse for outright lying and saying they aren't responding at all.

Personally do I feel more adjustments are needed? Sure, and I hope they do, which is why I provide feedback in areas I think need to be modified instead of complaining on the forums about why they haven't fixed it already.

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Comradebot
08.11.2014 , 02:23 PM | #124
Quote: Originally Posted by Tsillah View Post
These are not proper credit sinks though. The strongholds and guild ships are sort of one time purchases. Once the rooms are unlocked the credit sink is gone.

Proper credit sinks are the ones that you keep using like repair costs, travel costs, mod removal costs, augmenting, GTN tax on sales and such.

So, I don't really see any new credit sinks. Just a single credit reset if you will. The gambling machines on Nar Shaddaa probable got people to spend more credits than 2.9 ever will.
So because it doesn't go far enough we should just not let it go any distance?
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DOHboy
08.11.2014 , 02:25 PM | #125
Quote: Originally Posted by Tsillah View Post
These are not proper credit sinks though. The strongholds and guild ships are sort of one time purchases. Once the rooms are unlocked the credit sink is gone.

Proper credit sinks are the ones that you keep using like repair costs, travel costs, mod removal costs, augmenting, GTN tax on sales and such.

So, I don't really see any new credit sinks. Just a single credit reset if you will. The gambling machines on Nar Shaddaa probable got people to spend more credits than 2.9 ever will.
would you prefer "adjustment"..maybe "correction".

why people expect to own 100% of the strongholds stuff out of the gate not thinking hey, I an earn this over a year or so and enjoy it as I go. Which is why people don't consider this "content" they treat it as a one time expense and get 100% and wonder why there is nothing "new".

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ivanhedgehog
08.11.2014 , 02:27 PM | #126
Quote: Originally Posted by tdmaha View Post
And you are the only one with this flawed ridiculous thought process.
I am a subscriber. I have been one since prerelease. When I decide that my $15 a month are NOT buying access to all content in the game as was promised when it went F2P I will start looking for a game that does provide all content to its subscribers. you can disagree with this, but it is my evaluation of whether or not my $15 a month is being rewarded properly that decides if I continue to pay. Right now I am subscribed till October, but time will tell. I paid for the buffet, not just the salad bar.


ps: what you are searching for is a false sense of entitlement. if I paid for it, it isnt false.

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ivanhedgehog
08.11.2014 , 02:29 PM | #127
Quote: Originally Posted by tdmaha View Post
A player that does not spend hours and hours getting to level 55 and then spends weeks and weeks gearing up will never experience some of the ops.

A player who doesn't spend weeks and months grinding reputation will never get the rewards for gaining max reputation.

So what the hell is your point? Or are you just trolling? Why sub to a game just to troll the forums?
incorrect. My guild carried a brand new 55 with garbage gear through df just to get him gear. did he die a lot? yes. so what. there was NO gate preventing him from doing so.

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Drockter
08.11.2014 , 02:33 PM | #128
Quote: Originally Posted by Tsillah View Post
These are not proper credit sinks though. The strongholds and guild ships are sort of one time purchases. Once the rooms are unlocked the credit sink is gone.

Proper credit sinks are the ones that you keep using like repair costs, travel costs, mod removal costs, augmenting, GTN tax on sales and such.

So, I don't really see any new credit sinks. Just a single credit reset if you will. The gambling machines on Nar Shaddaa probable got people to spend more credits than 2.9 ever will.
I see your point on "proper credit sink", until you realize that it will be (at best estimates right now) a full year to year and a half before the ship will be fully unlocked (this is assuming doing nothing but working on the ship itself). There are hundreds of hooks that people can decorate (and you know they will... it will be a source of pride to many). rooms to unlock, etc etc etc... Its not a one time purchase, its a large expense being spread out over a long period of time.

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ivanhedgehog
08.11.2014 , 02:38 PM | #129
Quote: Originally Posted by hadoken View Post
Strongholds isn't "guild capital ship" it's actually significantly more than just that feature.
yup, forgot the malibu barbie houses.

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tdmaha
08.11.2014 , 02:43 PM | #130
Quote: Originally Posted by ivanhedgehog View Post
you dont understand "entitlement". try again
Sorry little buddy in the comment I was replying too that you left out it was 100% and entitlement mentality. I'm sorry you don't understand what that means....try again...