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SW:TOR will experience the first ever overnight ecomonic crash of an MMO.

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SW:TOR will experience the first ever overnight ecomonic crash of an MMO.

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Benfynyn
08.11.2014 , 12:35 PM | #101
Quote: Originally Posted by tdmaha View Post
No the fact all you do is troll the forums is why. Let me just take a shot let me know how close I am.

You are an angry, bitter swg vet that can't move on with his life after SWG close 3 or 4 years ago. You have made it your personal crusade to try (and fail) and take down Swtor by trolling every thread about something new coming to Swtor.

So how close am I?
Couldn't be more wrong. But points anyway because Chris Hardwick said so.

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Quote: Originally Posted by JovethGonzalez View Post

After some investigation, it appears that there was some miscommunication between teams and this patch note was not intended to be included in this last patch.

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Brewski
08.11.2014 , 12:37 PM | #102
Quote: Originally Posted by discosoc View Post
That's a lot of hyperbole.
That's more hyperbole than you could stuff in a million billion star cruisers!

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Thoop
08.11.2014 , 12:47 PM | #103
Quote: Originally Posted by tdmaha View Post
Come on buddy stop trolling it's pathetic someone would sub to a video game just to troll. Give it up you are embarrassing yourself.
what's that saying about following your own advice...?
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I've been waiting for you, Thoop. We meet again, at last. The circle is now complete. When I left you, I was but the poster; now *I* am the troll!
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Comradebot
08.11.2014 , 12:52 PM | #104
1. "Asking a question" to try and imply that the person you're asking fits a specific pigeonhole is, yes, an attack in my mind.

2. Claiming that 50 million credits for a guild ship is too high of a price tag and claiming it will alienate newer players is absolutely silly. Even with a full time job and a healthy relationship I've found time before to make 10 million credits in a single week, all on my own. I'm confident that, on my own, I could probably fund a guild ship within a month. Claiming that a group of people can't do the same in a significantly faster amount of time is crazy.

And honestly, I don't see how this hurts new players. The vast majority of them will be able to join guilds with guild ships minutes after starting up their first character. They'll be able to reap the benefits of guild ships without having to pay out a single cred. The only people I could possibly imagine being "locked out" from this would be a group of friends joining SWTOR just now, together, who are insistent on forming their own buddy guild. However, I dare say that people like that (especially so long after SWTOR's launch) will be a tiny, tiny minority of new players.



But 50 million is nothing. If a guild of 8+ players can't make that in a couple of weeks, then I propose at least a few of them have no clue how to go about making credits in this game.

At the end of the day every guild ship sold is 50 million more credits deflated from the economy. Honestly, new players joining the game and not being able to buy anything off the GTN because of inflation is a much, much bigger risk to turning off newcomers than 50 million credit guildships that most of them will be able to make use of for free if they so choose.
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JudasGray
08.11.2014 , 12:59 PM | #105
There are people that sepnd upwards of 10-15 million creds on mounts...so why is 50 million for a guildship so "ZOMG NOOO"?
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08.11.2014 , 01:04 PM | #106
Quote: Originally Posted by Khevar View Post
You are 100% wrong in your assessment.

Despite my being in disagreement with TUXs right now, I can tell you I've been reading his posts on this forum for almost 3 years, and I guarantee you that he is NOT the person you are describing.
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This. Except for the three years. I have just one year of reading his posts.
Again, thank you!
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I dont agree with a lot of what TUX says but this assesment is WAY off the mark.
Which is what drives me nuts about you jedip...we should agree on more! And also, thank you!
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Hahaha! Not very, but you are funny so please continue sharing your insights.
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@ tdmaha...

I am a SWG vet, but I'm not at all bitter about it closing, in fact, it's probably the smartest thing Smed ever did. He is now the golden boy of Star Wars MMOs, not the cancer he once was...rose colored glasses and all. The game needed to go...it was time for it to be buried.

I enjoy this game tdmaha, and I want more players to play/return. I think locking away guild content behind a 50 million credit barrier will deter players from experiencing the content...I don't see ANYTHING positive for the game by locking it away...do you?

What GOOD does it bring to the game to prevent smaller guilds and casual players from experiencing this content? When I do a WZ, it's not uncommon to see 7 different guilds represented. When I join a PuG, you can see 10+ guilds...the fact is, there are a LOT of smaller guilds in this game...they're by far the majority...this content update doesn't do anything to strengthen them or encourage them to play more...it just adds content many won't be able, or willing, to afford.
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Sacriversum
08.11.2014 , 01:09 PM | #107
Back to OP, I love this bit:

'3) Maintain productivity - Do not lose confidence in the game itself such that you "take a break" in protest. If you compare your time spent away from the game in protest versus being in game and being active, your time is better spent remaining productive, questing, raiding and participating in Guild v Guild world events than it is in silent protest while you play Minecraft or Star Citizen. You won't be sticking it to TOR or BioWare, you will just be mismanaging your wealth and losing productivity. If you know there is a chance you will come back, then don't leave. Also, be supportive of the casual player so that they remain productive. The hardcore people may have more personal wealth and time to play, but the casual, middle class players, add up and can far exceed the productivity by volume of our hardcore players. Be a wise GM and Guild Officer, maintain your casual base.'

Can't help thinking about real life examples of this. Keep drinking the koolaid! And guess what, if I don't like the game, I'll sure as hell take a break in protest. I'll unsubscribe in protest even. Just out of spite. To make myself feel better. Ah well, what tools people are.
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08.11.2014 , 01:10 PM | #108
Quote: Originally Posted by Comradebot View Post
But 50 million is nothing. If a guild of 8+ players can't make that in a couple of weeks, then I propose at least a few of them have no clue how to go about making credits in this game.
And what does that matter? Why do you care if there are poor players enjoying themselves? Are they of lesser value because they simply play to enjoy themselves? Isn't that the entire goal of a game, enjoyment? People make money being credit farmers...I don't want to be one just to enjoy new content. I hope they lower the entry point.
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Lotharofxev
08.11.2014 , 01:15 PM | #109
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it's probably the smartest thing Smed ever did. He is now the golden boy of Star Wars MMOs, not the cancer he once was...rose colored glasses and all. The game needed to go...it was time for it to be buried.
Hey, could be worse. He could be Aradune.

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Quraswren
08.11.2014 , 01:18 PM | #110
Quote: Originally Posted by RaiderMid View Post
I think you are overestimating how many people will actually mess with GSH let alone burn all their credits on it.

Even if there was a collapse. Who cares? This is a game.

BINGO ^

Though I would have went with the "Who gives a S**T. It's a game." but you said it pretty well.