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SW:TOR will experience the first ever overnight ecomonic crash of an MMO.

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SW:TOR will experience the first ever overnight ecomonic crash of an MMO.

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azudelphi
08.11.2014 , 11:00 AM | #81
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs View Post
Elder gameplay vs. leveling.
Elder gameplay requires completion of leveling gameplay. That means it requires time. That makes it gated just like guildships.

Besides, Guild conquests aren't elder game. They're alternate advancement...
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TUXs
08.11.2014 , 11:10 AM | #82
Quote: Originally Posted by azudelphi View Post
Besides, Guild conquests aren't elder game. They're alternate advancement...
What does that mean?
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azudelphi
08.11.2014 , 11:13 AM | #83
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs View Post
What does that mean?
It means they don't require level 55 and their benefits are for their own sake.
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scottythebod
08.11.2014 , 11:14 AM | #84
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs View Post
New players who reach 55...I didn't figure anyone would get so confused by the idea that I should need to spell it out. Apparently I was wrong.
Yeah because when you say new players most people assume you mean new lvl 55's. Furthermore that doesn't really make sense in this statement:

Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs View Post
"Entitlement?" lol!!! Not even close. It's just the opposite. I'm not selfish and shortsighted enough to see this as a good thing for the game. MMOs depend on new players....
So your point is MMo's depend on fresh lvl 55 characters not new players picking up the game for the first time? It's OK for new players to be gated from content possibly making them quit them game before they can really "get into it" as long as we don't gate fresh lvl 55's?

Furthermore which seems like a harder obstacle to overcome. A) Join a guild that has a flagship. B) Grind a character to lvl 55? The ship is barely a gate at all. New players giving this game a chance are met with a much more daunting gate. Admit it you were trying to gain sympathy by acting as some voice of the new player, now you just had to move the goalposts.

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TUXs
08.11.2014 , 11:17 AM | #85
Quote: Originally Posted by scottythebod View Post
Yeah because when you say new players most people assume you mean new lvl 55's. Furthermore that doesn't really make sense in this statement:
I assumed most new players goal is to reach 55...I don't know anyone who plays only to 54.
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Admit it you were trying to gain sympathy by acting as some voice of the new player, now you just had to move the goalposts.
I've been consistent since the price was released. I believe 50 million is ridiculously high. It HURTS this game, not helps it.

I'm not trying to gain sympathy, I'm stating my opinion.
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tdmaha
08.11.2014 , 11:38 AM | #86
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs View Post
I have news for you...you don't even need gear on to run HM or NiM DP or DF. Try it once...I promise, you're not at all gated from attempting it. Shocking huh?

And you think because I disagree with the entry price of guild ships, I should just quit this game? Nice. lol
No the fact all you do is troll the forums is why. Let me just take a shot let me know how close I am.

You are an angry, bitter swg vet that can't move on with his life after SWG close 3 or 4 years ago. You have made it your personal crusade to try (and fail) and take down Swtor by trolling every thread about something new coming to Swtor.

So how close am I?

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Khevar
08.11.2014 , 11:43 AM | #87
Quote: Originally Posted by tdmaha View Post
No the fact all you do is troll the forums is why. Let me just take a shot let me know how close I am.

You are an angry, bitter swg vet that can't move on with his life after SWG close 3 or 4 years ago. You have made it your personal crusade to try (and fail) and take down Swtor by trolling every thread about something new coming to Swtor.

So how close am I?
You are 100% wrong in your assessment.

Despite my being in disagreement with TUXs right now, I can tell you I've been reading his posts on this forum for almost 3 years, and I guarantee you that he is NOT the person you are describing.

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Lotharofxev
08.11.2014 , 11:44 AM | #88
Well at least we're not having the econ 101 discussion of "wealth" vs "currency".

In any event, while I appreciate the OPs "concern", I don't necessarily share it. See, my teeny guild (14 people), thought the idea of our small guild owning a guild ship to be awesome. We ran dailies, soloed world bosses, sold tons of stuff on the GTN.

Then Dulfy's video hit. Now the 50 million was a tad much (and we're closing in on that amount even though) to start with, not to mention the whole "Why do 14 people need a Harrow-class Warship? Don't they have anything smaller sir?" (SHort answer 'no', at least not atm).

But it was the unlocks above and beyond the purchase price, not to mention the maintenance and movement costs VERSUS the rewards.

A title? Yawn.

A walker? Cool, oh wait, it's for that planet only? Um.....

We're sitting ok financially. But any allure and or excitement about the potential for being such a small guild and competing with the big boys went Hasta La Vista when we saw the PTS rewards. Maybe I'll fund everyone's legacy storage or something if nothing changes.

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Rafaman
08.11.2014 , 11:45 AM | #89
Quote: Originally Posted by wainot-keel View Post
Crash ? What does it mean it the economy crashes on this game ? We will lose our ships ? People wil have to beg for creds to pay the taxi to move from one outpost to the other ? People won't be able to raid ? Won't be able to send companions on missions ? You'll have to keep listing your Revan's set at 30mil for a few more days ? What, exactly ?

I wouldn't worry. Creds are infinite in the game and it's damn easy to produce them. We will be fine.
Lol! Just re-reading this and I must admit, the word "crash" pretty much covers the hyperbole of the entire OP. There will be soup lines on the fleet.

And according to Tux there will be permanent underclass of guilds who can't move forward without a welfare system.

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hadoken
08.11.2014 , 11:54 AM | #90
Quote: Originally Posted by tdmaha View Post
No the fact all you do is troll the forums is why. Let me just take a shot let me know how close I am.

You are an angry, bitter swg vet that can't move on with his life after SWG close 3 or 4 years ago. You have made it your personal crusade to try (and fail) and take down Swtor by trolling every thread about something new coming to Swtor.

So how close am I?
While I've seen plenty of the type you describe on these forums, he isn't one of them. Stick with the discussion/argument, stop trying to attack the poster.