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SW:TOR will experience the first ever overnight ecomonic crash of an MMO.

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SW:TOR will experience the first ever overnight ecomonic crash of an MMO.

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hadoken
08.11.2014 , 10:08 AM | #61
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs View Post
No. All this does, in reality, is diminish what they have access to as far as content vs. what we do.
I don't see it as significantly different from requiring 8 people to run an Ops. Or being 55 to get access to Oricon dailies. All content in this game has requirements of some sort to it. This is just a different kind of hurdle.

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TUXs
08.11.2014 , 10:11 AM | #62
Quote: Originally Posted by hadoken View Post
I don't see it as significantly different from requiring 8 people to run an Ops. Or being 55 to get access to Oricon dailies. All content in this game has requirements of some sort to it. This is just a different kind of hurdle.
And I do.
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tdmaha
08.11.2014 , 10:11 AM | #63
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs View Post
No. All this does, in reality, is diminish what they have access to as far as content vs. what we do.
Again you clearly are not up to speed with reality. They have access to the exact content. Again guilds will be adding guild ship to their recruitment plug. So by your flawed logic all content in mmos that required time, effort, and dedication is "diminishing what players have access to". Sorry buddy you are completely clueless...

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Tsillah
08.11.2014 , 10:12 AM | #64
Quote: Originally Posted by Kimiko View Post
What Happens After The Crash?

The day after 19 August, the wealthiest people in game will be down to their last 5-20 million credits. The middle class in game will be down to their last 1-5 million credits. And the average players, which tend to have at most, maybe 2 million credits, will be broke or near broke.
This is the part I do not agree with at all. The wealthiest people in the game have 100s of millions. So instead of having 500 million they will have 400 million and new ways to make money via the GTN which is what made them rich in the first place. So as with the real economies, the really rich will not suffer from this at all.

The other two groups are probably true.

Quote: Originally Posted by Kimiko View Post
Only a small percentage of players (those taking a break from the game and those who simply do not like spending money) will maintain their pre-stronghold level of wealth. And remember, there will be a lot of guilds who make obtaining a guild ship a priority and thus hitting the middle class very hard for their personal wealth.
The thing is there are still the same ways of making money. What is more likely to happen is a shift in where people spend money. There will be less cash for things like augmenting because people are doing housing and even that depends on the player.

Also as a game, as you said yourself, there are not a lot of money sinks. The new stuff will only be a temporary drain and then it goes back to business as usual.

People who have little credits still will have housing on DK/Coruscant. All in all, aside from GTN fluctuations I do not think the economy will change much, certainly not for the long term. I see it as a shift more than anything.

In the end when you are broke, you do some dailies for an hour and you have 150k again.

What I will be interested to see is what will happen to smaller guilds. I see this guild ship and all that comes with it as a stumbling block for recruitment as they may not have a ship to offer, certainly not at first. This means that there may well be a consolidation of guilds more than anything. There may end up being more bigger guilds. Especially Conquest will pull more people to bigger guilds because they want to win. This may be what they want to achieve but I also see downsides to this.

Time will tell, but the economy will work itself out, simply because the cost of basic necessities stays the same (repairs, travel, etc) and those costs are easy to cover with doing a minimum of dailies.
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TheWookiee
08.11.2014 , 10:12 AM | #65
There will be a lull in the mainstay items like Augments, Augment kits, etc. for a couple of weeks, but there is also going to be a boom on the new decoration item kits that are going to sell like crazy for a few weeks, probably at inflated values for the first week and finally settling to a stable price around the second to third week.

As for a recession? Nope. You will most likely see the usual crafting barons flooding the market with the new "Shiny" padding their account even more, and there will also be an influx of new "wealthy" who have planned for this patch.

It won't be a recession, but more likely a redistribution. Plus, a few weeks of dailies will bring the mainstays back into balance.

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tdmaha
08.11.2014 , 10:13 AM | #66
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs View Post
And I do.
And you are the only one with this flawed ridiculous thought process.

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TUXs
08.11.2014 , 10:15 AM | #67
Quote: Originally Posted by tdmaha View Post
Again you clearly are not up to speed with reality. They have access to the exact content. Again guilds will be adding guild ship to their recruitment plug. So by your flawed logic all content in mmos that required time, effort, and dedication is "diminishing what players have access to". Sorry buddy you are completely clueless...
I think it is you who needs to get up to speed. Unless a guild invests the 50 mil, they will NOT have access to the guild conquests...the very first piece of guild content added to this game since launch (minus guild banks which were storage, not content). So it seems to be YOU who is completely clueless.
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tdmaha
08.11.2014 , 10:25 AM | #68
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs View Post
I think it is you who needs to get up to speed. Unless a guild invests the 50 mil, they will NOT have access to the guild conquests...the very first piece of guild content added to this game since launch (minus guild banks which were storage, not content). So it seems to be YOU who is completely clueless.
A player that does not spend hours and hours getting to level 55 and then spends weeks and weeks gearing up will never experience some of the ops.

A player who doesn't spend weeks and months grinding reputation will never get the rewards for gaining max reputation.

So what the hell is your point? Or are you just trolling? Why sub to a game just to troll the forums?

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TUXs
08.11.2014 , 10:30 AM | #69
Quote: Originally Posted by tdmaha View Post
A player that does not spend hours and hours getting to level 55 and then spends weeks and weeks gearing up will never experience some of the ops.

A player who doesn't spend weeks and months grinding reputation will never get the rewards for gaining max reputation.

So what the hell is your point? Or are you just trolling? Why sub to a game just to troll the forums?
You can gear up at 55 in 30 min on Oricon.

Reputation? That has to do with this discussion how? Is there some content I'm gated from if I don't have max rep somewhere?

My point was very clear. I suggest you re-read my posts since you're confused...because typing them out again, just for you to ignore again, seems pointless.
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scottythebod
08.11.2014 , 10:35 AM | #70
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs View Post
I think it is you who needs to get up to speed. Unless a guild invests the 50 mil, they will NOT have access to the guild conquests...the very first piece of guild content added to this game since launch (minus guild banks which were storage, not content). So it seems to be YOU who is completely clueless.
I do NOT have access to the Oricon dailies, is that not content? I pay the same sub as you so by your logic I should get access but I don't.

I've spent my entire time in this game, over 3 months, grinding to lvl 55 (something I don't really want to do) and I still have a bit to go too to be able to run dailies, ops ranked PvP with my guildmates, most of whom are lvl 55. Again using the logic that this is a game & I shouldn't be forced to do anything I don't enjoy so I should just start out with a lvl 55 character right?

They have the same right to that content as I have to the Oricon dailies. They have to earn that right just like I have to earn the right to partake in lvl 55 content by spending months ginding exp. It's no different no matter how you try to spin it.