I think sometimes Raiders need to be reminded a Flashpoint isn't an OP

I think over all you are right. It's more the attitude on FPs thats needs to be a little more relaxed.

However, in your own example: I don't how Op your toon is, how amazingly OP their AOE is, pulling the entire room is not teaching or showing anything or any player how to do things. In most cases a move like that will wipe a group. It should not normally be done unless the group is really ready for it and since most groups rarely talk, it's not worth the chance of a wipe in a pug.

But overall, yes, FP needs to have a little more relaxed atmosphere. (but Iwill say this too, LI could not be all that relaxed when it first came out. Second boss was a FP killer if you didn't know how to play. Seen too many pug wipes even after the fight was explained.)

It's a fine line.

Perhaps, but not as fine a line as you'd think. None of us were overpowered and all of us at level on maelstrom. There's more give me than you are think. But I do agree that communication is important; when the room got agroed, I told the group to come around the corner and are when the mobs show up. All I needed to say - they did that and we cleared that KDY room in a quarter of the time.

I'm going to assume English is not your first language or you are still slightly asleep because that was a little hard to read.

I'm still not sure what this means exactly: "There's more give me than you are think. "

Either way, communication is needed but here's the rub. If even one said they would rather not pull the whole room because it has wiped them them on multiple times, would you still do it? Or does their opinion not matter simply because you want to do it in a hurry?

It's got to work both ways or else thats when the drama starts and FP's really don't need that.

I know it can be done, I've done it but it's not feasible in most pugs.

This I will never understand. Being under level 55 and wanting to skip mobs that give you good XP. What are you in a hurry for? To get back out and continue grinding XP anyway? Enjoy the flashpoint and soak up as much XP from that flashpoint as possible.

To be honest, the whole "kill mobs, wait, heal to full, kill next batch, wait, heal to full, take 5-10 minutes to strategize on boss/explain fight, wash rinse repeat" can drag at times.

I'll never get it as well.

That's the opposite issue with geared lvl 55 running HM 50 and who refuse to kill the bonus boss for achievements. That's the only one reason I am still running these flashpoints. You don't need the gear, you don't need the comms, you can't need the credits so bad (you'll be better doing dailies on Ilum) so really what's the point of running these flashpoints when you are a geared lvl 55 if that's not for the achievements?

Yup. Those types seem to be the primary offenders. They are actually convinced for instance that you get more xp in KDY by doing speed runs than taking the other extra time to kill everything, which is especially ridiculous during double xp time when killing those gold mobs gives you as much xp as some quests...

I think it's well-known that flashpoint rewards, xp-wise and reward-wise, give more bonuses than mobs in that flashpoint, and it saves time.

I'm not there for the XP, though - I'd rather my newbie tank and healer levelled as slowly as possible, because I'm learning the mechanics AND I want to prolong the levelling. For me, there's nothing as interesting as levelling, actually - 55 doesn't even cut it close. Been there twelve times, never bothered to buy a t-shirt.

SM or HM????? Cause I remeber two manning (DPS only no comp and no stealth) it without comp at lvl 12 without any mod in our shells (cause hell yes my tons will look good even if it's squishy)
Let me guess... I didn't see the sarcasm??