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Why I still choose SWTOR over newer MMO's

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Why I still choose SWTOR over newer MMO's

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Kalfear
07.12.2014 , 12:57 PM | #21
Quote: Originally Posted by Lotharofxev View Post
Your best bet is to find some LMIs (*) and make a guild. Or do what folks did on my WoW server and have a "RP get-together" once a week.

Be forewarned said "get-together" quickly de-evolves into: 1) cyber 2) Sexual innuendo NAFC (**) 3) Everyone knows the Emperor / the Supreme CHancellor 4) eye-rolling abilities

(*) Like Minded Individuals

(**) Not Appropriate for Children
again no

RP servers with naming rules pretty common standard in the MMORPG genre before WOW dumbed everything down

I wanna see a return to that standard

And no it didnt devolve into cyber sex junk
Think your projecting your own issues there
In regards to lessening F2P and Preferred restrictions
In GAMING, as in LIFE,
You get what you pay for
No game restriction is so dire that $15.00/month will not eliminate it

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Kalfear
07.12.2014 , 12:59 PM | #22
Quote: Originally Posted by CyberneticDucks View Post
once i looked up wildstar just to see what everyone was talking about, and it looked like a sh%tty kid's cartoon game. i laughed so hard at the thought of that being one of swtor's main competitors.
so true

Im told it has some good mechanics but I can not get past the ****** cartoon look of it

I honestly dont see it being more then a small nitch game once the newness wears off because of its graphics

Can not, for the life of me, understand how any dev could think cartton graphics in this day and age (unless made for children of course) was a good idea.
In regards to lessening F2P and Preferred restrictions
In GAMING, as in LIFE,
You get what you pay for
No game restriction is so dire that $15.00/month will not eliminate it

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OddballEasyEight
07.12.2014 , 01:51 PM | #23
Quote: Originally Posted by Kalfear View Post
again no

RP servers with naming rules pretty common standard in the MMORPG genre before WOW dumbed everything down

I wanna see a return to that standard

And no it didnt devolve into cyber sex junk
Think your projecting your own issues there
Umm... there are naming rules on all the servers in SWTOR...
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Tsillah
07.12.2014 , 01:58 PM | #24
Quote: Originally Posted by Kalfear View Post
so true

Im told it has some good mechanics but I can not get past the ****** cartoon look of it

I honestly dont see it being more then a small nitch game once the newness wears off because of its graphics

Can not, for the life of me, understand how any dev could think cartton graphics in this day and age (unless made for children of course) was a good idea.
I've been trying it out this weekend with a trial pass. The game mechanics for combat are pretty good I'd have to say. Of course there are bugs with some of the skills and the game is suffering from a lot of lag spikes. This apparently is happening since the last patch. Of course we all know that bugs only happen here so they must be lying

But yeh it feels more like a fantasy than a sci fi game and I can't get over the fluffy bunnies and furries. It's an asian thing I know but not for me. It's kinda fun at first but it's standard MMO fantasy questing in a setting that I can't get used to. And it doesn't have near the customisation options we have here for example. In SWTOR I have 21 characters, in Wildstar (if I were to buy it which I won't), I would be hard pressed to make 3 characters that I actually liked the look of. It's a taste thing but certainly not mine. Not my cup of tea as they say.
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Tsillah
07.12.2014 , 02:00 PM | #25
Quote: Originally Posted by OddballEasyEight View Post
Umm... there are naming rules on all the servers in SWTOR...
except they're not being enforced very strictly at all. A lot of names have been reported but never changed. I think BW's got a policy about how many people complain before they even look into instead of taking each report seriously. There's something to be said for that but on a RP server you need stricter rules. Why? Because it's not just about the names being insulting or perverted but also names like LukeSkaiwalker and Ipwnu'younoob are names you don't want on a RP server.
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SgtJeremy
07.12.2014 , 02:03 PM | #26
I will not lie the only thing that gets me coming back is the fact it is Star Wars. I love the universe and to be honest Bioware did a pretty good job delivering the universe to us. PvP and PvE may not be up to MMO snuff but the game has a environment that most others don't deliver on quite as well. In my opinion anyway.
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Lotharofxev
07.12.2014 , 02:30 PM | #27
Quote:
I wanna see a return to that standard

And no it didnt devolve into cyber sex junk
Think your projecting your own issues there
I'm not talking about RP * names *, I'm talking about RP. Furthermore, since I didn't even say what WoW server I was on, how on earth do you make the statement that "it didn't devolve into cyber sex junk"?

RP isn't just a name. RP is much , much more than that when done well.

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Heal-To-Full
07.12.2014 , 02:34 PM | #28
Quote: Originally Posted by DrewFromPhilly View Post
What will keep you playing when you see all of the class and planet quests?
There are 8 stories that, together, take ridiculous time to complete. 2 of them are crap (sage and trooper), and let's say you won't like 2, but you'll want to replay at least 4 of the other ones, with a different alignment and on a different AC, which makes a difference.

That makes 12 runs through and each is, conservatively, about 80 hours. A character that I've only ever run on double XP, who was provided with purples by other characters, hasn't spend a minute without a general XP boost and a stim (which cost money, so I didn't afk'd on him) and skipped all planetary quests except first 3 planets, has clocked 98 hours of /played at story completion. I did do some WZ, flashpoints, etc, but a lot less than appropriate.

No other MMO provides a comparable amount of story content. You can get 2 playthroughs each for Alliance and Horde... and that's it.

Only the most hardcore players will go through all ~1,000 hours of content in SWTOR. 40 days, 1/10 of a year's total life time. And for these players, by that time, it's usually player-driven content such as running their guild that keeps them playing.
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theSCARAYone
07.12.2014 , 02:57 PM | #29
That wall of text though.
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Kalfear
07.12.2014 , 09:10 PM | #30
Quote: Originally Posted by OddballEasyEight View Post
Umm... there are naming rules on all the servers in SWTOR...
Quote: Originally Posted by Tsillah View Post
except they're not being enforced very strictly at all. A lot of names have been reported but never changed..
Exactly Ts.

EA has outright failed (or more like refused) to enforce their own naming policy
So a policy thats not enforced
is no policy at all

The naming policy needs to be enforced on RP servers because on RP servers immersion in the setting matters.

It might not matter to the kids and non RPs out there (like the guy I quote below this reply) because they have never understood the concept of enviroment or immersion.

Prior to WOW, RP servers were called (unofficially) mature servers.
It wasnt even about the RP (for some it was but for many...myself included) it was about having a server that didnt allow the kiddy nonsense of tasteless mom jokes. Of swear words in names. Of copyritten names and material being copied.

A RP server before WOW dumbed down the genre was a setting that most post 30 year old players could enjoy and thrive and yes, partake in Role Play (that wasn't about cyber sexing ....again for guy quoted below. Really kinda sad some people still think Role Playing in MMORPGs is about cyber sexing to be honest).

There is no server in WOW, RIFT, SW:TOR, Neverwinter, or Defiant that can fill that role in todays market (and im sure its no different in ESO or Wildstar honestly)

Real RP servers need enforced naming rules and light (but present) moderation of the general chat channel (cause not everyone really wants to hear a 4 hour stupidfest about Rape in general chat.......sadly thats NOT some fabricated topic but one thats been on DK General 2 times in last 3 days while I run bounties).


Quote: Originally Posted by Lotharofxev View Post
I'm not talking about RP * names *, I'm talking about RP. Furthermore, since I didn't even say what WoW server I was on, how on earth do you make the statement that "it didn't devolve into cyber sex junk"?

RP isn't just a name. RP is much , much more than that when done well.
Kid, you have no clue what your talking about so just stop already
Seriously just stop
In regards to lessening F2P and Preferred restrictions
In GAMING, as in LIFE,
You get what you pay for
No game restriction is so dire that $15.00/month will not eliminate it