OK this is getting rather silly regarding hard mode Flashpoint GF

This all day long

I don't know of any stats but the 'proof is in the pudding.'

What role has the longest wait time in the group finder queue? DPS. Who has the fastest? Tank, some days healer.

So whose population is higher? DPS. Whose lower? Tanks and healers.

Field respec.
With my powertech the solo questing with Mako I do it as dps. Even with a shield and tanking enhancements the dps is good enough and kill thing fast. If join for a heroic or flashpoint, I switch back to tanking.
With my guardian I don't even bother switching back and forth, since Kira does good enough dps.

There is NOT a damn thing that Bioware cam do to fix this.
Cross server queues would not fix it since I would wager that most servers have roughly the same ratio of tanks:healers:dps

The real problem is moronic DPS.
I tank (and lead) a progression raid group(all 3 classes). I never take my tank into a random group.

Way to often DPS will Pull, stand in stupid, break CC, stand there attacking the wall, or any other stupid *** thing you can think of.

Do tanks and healers do stupid ****... sure it happens, we are all human. But DPS are the worse.

And it makes sense. DPS just have to stand there, keep bashing the enemy and look pretty doing it.

While the healers have to keep everyone alive (and desperately try to recover from stupid people).
And tanks have to get agro and hope that the DPS burn down the same enemy (and try to recover when a DPS tries to pull)

In my opinion, in the vast majority of fights. if you have competent players (not pugs) a tank's job is the easiest. (some fights this is not the case).


TLDR: I know many tanks (myself included) who don't step foot into GF thanks for moronic DPS.

I agree with all of the other posters here. Two other things I'd like to add though.

1) I hate healers that have no clue how threat and guard work demanding guards.

I was recently kicked from a leveling flashpoint on my shadow after the healer demanded that I guard him even though he never took aggro once. When I told him healers don't get guard and that he doesn't understand how it works he said that he "HAS A TANK", as if that tells me anything other than him being a bad tank. He then stopped healing me. Because he stopped healing me I kept dying, then the DPS chimed in saying "your gear's bad you keep dying, he's doing the best he can to keep you up", not noticing that I wasn't receiving a single heal. Watching him he was running around saber striking enemies and using telekinetic throw. This would also flow over into the "healers that dps instead of heal suck" category.

My guildy has had a healer ragequit before because he refused to guard him. It's insane.

2) Commendation gear for tanks is awful.

There is no reason for me to get comms on my tanks except to gear my companions. Everything about them is awful and I'd do much better to gear myself out through operations than to wear anything from the comm vendor. That being the case, there's very little reason for me to run flashpoints for comms when I have no use for comms.

will toss this out there as well. after a certain point, running HM ops just isn't worth it any more. If the goal is to get into ops, you can run Oricon for gear and essentially be ready for sm ops with a guild. If this is not a first toon, elite coms and drops from other ops can be transferred to alts via legacy gear (for a price) and never had have to step foot into a HM flashpoint.

IF they were enjoyable maybe more tanks would queue just for the fun, but I stopped running them for many reasons, most of which is the "noob" threshold. Battle of Ilum being one of there where they want to fight every boss or have never done it before (never bothered with the SM) and end up just taking way more time than what would be reasonable. Who wants to spend 3 hours in HM Cademimu, I can tell you one person who doesn't....and why I never queue for HM flashpoints anymore especially on my tank.

These guys go on /ignore.

Talk about mis quote the op. You should have included more than the one line because he was talking about the game being the problem and not tanks per se. I also think in my opinion some good points. Not everyone finds tanks easy to play making them more apealing is a good thing right? For us all?

Only so much room and too many people that are clueless on how to play as a group. Just easier to not run pug HM.

I have a better solution.
Lets make simplify DPS since they are the ones that make it hard the Tanks.
Obviously DPS is way to difficult.


Tanking is EASY if you have a competent group.