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An automatic 1-55 level jump token

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An automatic 1-55 level jump token

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Anaesha
07.09.2014 , 12:30 PM | #91
Quote: Originally Posted by Damask_Rose View Post
I don't know about others, but I'm planet questing my no-advanced class characters. I'm pretty sure I could hold my own in a KDY, but I view them as solo only characters.

Back to the original topic:

I don't like the idea. I believe everything beyond fluff should be earned, not bought. I suspect the number of complaints about lack of end-game would go up dramatically if people could buy their way to the end.

Now if they were to implement something that caters to one playstyle so dramatically, I think they should compensate in other areas. If raiders could buy lvl 55s so they can skip leveling to raid, they should make solo versions of all group content so soloers can skip grouping and still see all of the story. Seems like a fair trade off.
Oddly enough It would be interesting if they implemented "scaling" for Heroics/FPs. OK for those that don't know what scaling is to put it simply the difficulty of the given Heroic or FP changes based on how many members are in your group I.E. if you are alone it scales down so you can easily do it yourself. However, if you have a full 4 man group if will scale up to the level of the current Heroic 4s.

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AizaTalzin
07.09.2014 , 12:46 PM | #92
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs View Post
Solid advice huh? I enjoy doing things at 55, not 1-54, so I should quit and go to another game?! How ridiculously stupid that suggestion is lol.
Honestly yes. If you're too lazy to level the traditional way then go to a game that let's you skip it. It also isn't a "stupid" suggestion; it is a valid one. You want to cop-out the lazy way and auto-level. SWTOR doesn't allow this via a "magic" token. The only solutions for you are to either level or go to another game. Next time be a bit nicer in a reply? People are entitled to their own opinions and suggestions. No reason to tear their ideas and suggestions down.

What are the financial implications in this for bioware if the idea got approved? Do they make money off of the cc for legacy perks and xp packs (such as during 2xp events)? If so then this would eliminate that cash cow wouldn't it? Make the cost of this "token" too low and every toon will be 55 overnight . Make it too high in cost and not many will buy. From a financial standpoint what would bioware more likely do? Continue with the status quo or create this magic "token"?

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TUXs
07.09.2014 , 12:58 PM | #93
Quote: Originally Posted by AizaTalzin View Post
Honestly yes. If you're too lazy to level the traditional way then go to a game that let's you skip it. It also isn't a "stupid" suggestion; it is a valid one. You want to cop-out the lazy way and auto-level. SWTOR doesn't allow this via a "magic" token. The only solutions for you are to either level or go to another game. Next time be a bit nicer in a reply? People are entitled to their own opinions and suggestions. No reason to tear their ideas and suggestions down.

What are the financial implications in this for bioware if the idea got approved? Do they make money off of the cc for legacy perks and xp packs (such as during 2xp events)? If so then this would eliminate that cash cow wouldn't it? Make the cost of this "token" too low and every toon will be 55 overnight . Make it too high in cost and not many will buy. From a financial standpoint what would bioware more likely do? Continue with the status quo or create this magic "token"?
Wait a minute lol...you're the one that wants to spend endless more hours in front of your computer doing the exact same quests over and over and "I" am the lazy one? I wish I had the spare time you seem to have, but I don't. I've leveled the toons I play and I'm content with them...but if they did offer a chance for me to add some new 55's without having to level them (maybe on a different server even), I'd be very interested in it. I'm not "lazy"...I'm truly just too busy to level more right now. Suggesting I should quit because I lack the free time you have is a foolish suggestion.
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AizaTalzin
07.09.2014 , 01:08 PM | #94
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs View Post
Wait a minute lol...you're the one that wants to spend endless more hours in front of your computer doing the exact same quests over and over and "I" am the lazy one? I wish I had the spare time you seem to have, but I don't. I've leveled the toons I play and I'm content with them...but if they did offer a chance for me to add some new 55's without having to level them (maybe on a different server even), I'd be very interested in it. I'm not "lazy"...I'm truly just too busy to level more right now. Suggesting I should quit because I lack the free time you have is a foolish suggestion.
No its not and its nice you make assumptions about people. Remember the old saying "those who make assumptions end up making themselves into the first three letters of the word". Im a wife who works a full time job, i have children and a husband that need me. I spend an hour a day on this game. I have one 55 and am working on another. I have little time to play compared to others but I would not cop out (even if I had multiple 55s). Regardless of how boring certain planets are.

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LordArtemis
07.09.2014 , 01:12 PM | #95
Quote: Originally Posted by AizaTalzin View Post
You want to cop-out the lazy way and auto-level.
This is a video game. Laziness is more likely than not a common attribute among all players IMO.

That is not meant as an endorsement for a quick level token...frankly I couldn't care less either way. Just the folly of calling any desire to avoid activity in a video game "lazy"....it's all lazy IMO.

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TUXs
07.09.2014 , 01:22 PM | #96
Quote: Originally Posted by AizaTalzin View Post
No its not and its nice you make assumptions about people. Remember the old saying "those who make assumptions end up making themselves into the first three letters of the word". Im a wife who works a full time job, i have children and a husband that need me. I spend an hour a day on this game. I have one 55 and am working on another. I have little time to play compared to others but I would not cop out (even if I had multiple 55s). Regardless of how boring certain planets are.
Yet here you were, calling me "lazy". You "assumed" I was lazy because I don't have time (or a desire) to grind more toons. My time online is better spent doing group content that I enjoy and where I can help other players. You do what you want, I do what I want...I'm not lazy.
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Halinalle
07.09.2014 , 01:27 PM | #97
Quote: Originally Posted by LordArtemis View Post
This is a video game. Laziness is more likely than not a common attribute among all players IMO.

That is not meant as an endorsement for a quick level token...frankly I couldn't care less either way. Just the folly of calling any desire to avoid activity in a video game "lazy"....it's all lazy IMO.
You clearly care a lot because you seem to be extremely defensive for some reason.

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LordArtemis
07.09.2014 , 01:51 PM | #98
Quote: Originally Posted by Halinalle View Post
You clearly care a lot because you seem to be extremely defensive for some reason.
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I'm not sure where you get the idea that I am defensive. Perhaps you could post an example? Then I can clear up any confusion you may have...unless you are mistaking me for someone else.

If you mean I am defensive about a desire or lack thereof pertaining to a level 55 token, that is just ludicrous. I would challenge you to present any evidence to substantiate your accusation.

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jrwellworth
07.09.2014 , 01:55 PM | #99
Quote: Originally Posted by errant_knight View Post
Well, I think it's a horrible idea. You shouldn't be able to skip the entire game and flood endgame content with completely ungeared, unskilled players. *twilight zone music* Imagine if you will...Ops filled with players in green gear and asking what their ability tree is. The horror..... If people who can gear their characters and know how to play can jump, so can completely new players and that wouldn't go well.

Besides, they'd obviously charge for that , making the game pay to win.
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Transcendent
07.10.2014 , 12:40 PM | #100
Quote: Originally Posted by jrwellworth View Post
Still an auto level up but with these rules attached: For this level up you would already have to have a level 55 of the said class or a 55 of the mirror class, i.e. a level 55 scoundrel can roll a level 55 imp op, sorc rolls a 55 sage etc..
And that it wouldn't be beholden to your legacy but your account so you could roll your toon on a different server and still be able to get this perk. It also would not include the class buff, or the companions, you would have to go back and get them the normal way.

Now, with these rules in play, do we still think it would hugely increase the level of bads in your, lol, group finder ops? Your hmfps? Endgame pvp? If so, why? If you still think it isn't a good idea, why? Please try to use different argument then "Leveling is what everyone has to do, if you don't wanna do things the way I think you should do them then go play another game!" Someone or maybe even someones made post like this, so lets use our brains yes? If you like this idea the way I re formed it, why do you think it would benefit us.
It's just a case of looking at the pros and cons of having some form of auto level system. Would I like one, in a way yes, but only with the stipulation attached of legacy level 50 / subscriber only, and only for a class you have already levelled (purely so I could choose an alternate advanced class without having to do the story again). The downside to this is it would take some time to actually learn the advanced class, which levelling is useful for finding what does / doesn't work. In that respect, it would no doubt affect endgame content such as 55 OPs / HMFP / PVP (we all have to learn somehow).

Actually sticking something like this to account would be useful, especially for rolling a character on a different server, but again, only for a class story you have completed, and only once legacy level 50 / subscriber. Class buff side of things should stay as it is currently, purely because you may end up in a situation where you have too many players without said buffs. Companions wise is a fair point, but again if it's only for a class you have already levelled the normal way, then I see no real issue in those being automatically unlocked (you would have done the story anyway).

That's my take on it, no real issue with something like this happening, but feel there should be some "arbitrary" limitations imposed.