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No reason not to create a Kotor 3 to go alongside swtor

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No reason not to create a Kotor 3 to go alongside swtor

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RandomXChance
07.08.2014 , 06:47 PM | #51
Last shot at this since you are not ever really reading what I wrote. The violence in the game part was referring to Fallout 1 using the GURPS system from Steve Jackson. He did not like the graphic nature they did and pulled the license.

As to the MMO:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallout_Online

Bethesda bought the IP and licensed back to Interplay the MMO rights and then cancelled the license when they felt Interplay had not lived up to the agreement.

Hopefully back to the subject of the thread.

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Heal-To-Full
07.08.2014 , 07:20 PM | #52
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Bethesda bought the IP and licensed back to Interplay the MMO rights and then cancelled the license when they felt Interplay had not lived up to the agreement.
It was not because they felt Interplay had not lived up to the agreement.
It was because Interplay hadn't.
The agreement was very specific, there was no room for feelings and interpretations and other stuff.

Specific requirements were stated in the agreement that if not met, Interplay would immediately lose and surrender its license rights for Fallout. Development must have begun within 24 months of the date of the agreement (April 4, 2007), and Interplay must have secured $30 million within that time frame or forfeit its rights to license. Interplay would furthermore need to launch the MMOG within four years of the beginning of development, and pay Bethesda 12 percent of sales and subscription fees for the use of the IP.

If Interplay had $30 million and was developing the game, they would keep the license. If interplay didn't have $30 million or had $30 million but wasn't developing the game, they would lose the license.

That Steve Jackson had SJgames cut ties with Interplay was certainly an impediment to their ability to produce the game. But it never mattered. Steve Jackson wasn't a Bethesda employee, there was no contractual requirement for a Fallout MMO to use his system, and even if he was 100% aboard, Interplay would still have lost the license. They didn't have the money, they didn't have full-scale development to show, and they needed both to keep it.



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Hopefully back to the subject of the thread.
Yes, back to the subject. Once a franchise has been licensed, the owner doesn't have the right to arbitrarily cancel the license because he doesn't like something. His opinion only matters if the agreement specifically includes an approval requirement. EA is a big company, KOTOR-SWTOR a major sub-franchise of its own, and their agreement with Lucas clearly doesn't have his people approve every robe and mount. So it doesn't matter what Mickey Mouse thinks of the game, the rights have been licensed, the contract's binding whoever collects the cash.
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RandomXChance
07.08.2014 , 11:11 PM | #53
Edit: done derailing for no point

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07.09.2014 , 09:16 AM | #54
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I highly doubt this whatever SW game will be for PS4. I am much more inclined to think it will be for PC.
No......I can almost guarantee that the new SW game will be released on all consoles (except maybe Wii U) and on PC. There's a LOT more console gamers than there are PC gamers. Except for MMO's.....pretty much EVERYTHING is created with consoles in mind.
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DomiSotto
07.09.2014 , 09:29 AM | #55
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I agree K2 was far better than K1.Too short though. When I played K1 I rpged it. Revan got sucked down the toilet after a explosion. The KP on the ship(Dish washer for you civilian minded folks) took his place. Yeah it was a stretch but wth. Still K2 I think the VOs sold the story. Every time I hear the Kotor music I want to run back and play the game.
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TheSeventhJedi
07.09.2014 , 10:13 AM | #56
Quote: Originally Posted by ImmortalLowlife View Post
I sincerely hope the "open world SW RPG" they're working on now is kotor 3.
Whoa whoa whoa - hold the phone. What "open world SW RPG"? Where was that announced? Got a link? If BW is making that, I don't care what era it's in, you just made my day!
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07.09.2014 , 10:30 AM | #57
Quote: Originally Posted by Vandicus View Post
That depends on how tightly Disney wants to hold the reins for games with the Star Wars IP, and the degree of freedom which EA was entitled to from their previous contract regarding development of future Star Wars games.

If Disney really wants to push their new canon hard, they can simply keep developers from releasing new games related to old canon and publishers from publishing books related to the old canon.
Oh, you bet your bones they're already doing that. Hasbro has already been told to put the kibosh on all EU figures indefinitely. The story group has noted that all video games moving forward are canon - which, of course, they know to be true, because they're working with the video game creators.

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Can't do that.
Well, legally they can go crazy and forbid anyone from using the trademarks and sue around, but it will break so many pre-existing agreements, including very profitable ones, for no real gain, and it will break what's been already established.

And what's established is that old canon will have "Legends" added after "Star Wars".
That's it. Add the magic word and you're legally in the clear.

As far as fans are concerned, I strongly suspect that "star wars legends" will be just Star Wars and whatever's added by Disney's treated as a separate spin-off.
Nope, that Legends title was made so that they could keep selling the books that are already written. ALL content moving forward is canon, and must pass muster with the story group. EA has exclusive rights to Star Wars video games for the next decade, and you can bet your bottom dollar one of the things they had to sign off on in that agreement was the new canon. Think they won't can games that were in development in favor of their new canon? Well, I hope you enjoy 1313 when it comes out this fall - oh wait...
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07.09.2014 , 10:34 AM | #58
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Revan got sucked down the toilet after a explosion. The KP on the ship(Dish washer for you civilian minded folks) took his place.
So you Steven Seagal'd it?
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errant_knight
07.09.2014 , 10:49 AM | #59
There's plenty of room for another Kotor story. Personally, I'd pick the story up with with the rebuilding of the order after the events of 1 and 2. There's 300 year of 'what happened?' between kotor 2 and swtor--and my personal hope is that this was the sw game pitch that obsidian had for disney, although I'm not sure that every happened.

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errant_knight
07.09.2014 , 10:54 AM | #60
Quote: Originally Posted by TheSeventhJedi View Post
Whoa whoa whoa - hold the phone. What "open world SW RPG"? Where was that announced? Got a link? If BW is making that, I don't care what era it's in, you just made my day!
This is Battlefront, not a Kotor game. And it's being developed by EA Digital Illusions, not Bioware. Looks pretty good if you like action/combat games though. Me, I'm not into them so much. Edit: Hmm, I'm wrong about that. It's not Battlefront. It's also not Bioware or Obsidian. it's EA Canada, an entity I'm not familiar with.