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An automatic 1-55 level jump token

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An automatic 1-55 level jump token

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JimG
07.08.2014 , 10:30 AM | #41
I've never been into power-leveling and always been very against anything that encourages power-leveling. I enjoy the leveling aspect of the game and enjoy building up alts step-by-step. I made the mistake of running Kuat this weekend with a character and forgot all the power-levelers would be out in full-force with it being double XP and Kuat is their avenue of choice. I couldn't figure out why the other 3 guys seemed to be dying or almost dying so easily so I checked their gear. They were all level 35-40 running with gear in the level 10-20 range. One guy was around level 35 and had no earpiece, implants or relics. These guys were obviously just power-leveling and expecting people like me to carry them through Kuat.

My roundabout way of getting back to the main point raised by the OP is that I've changed my stance on this issue. If someone wants to pay $60 to skip to level 55 with a character, under certain conditions, then I'd be okay with that because #1 - I don't have to carry their under-geared characters through group content and can just generally avoid them in my gameplay experience altogether and #2 - they are subsidizing the game with their fee. The conditions though would be legacy level 50 and they would have to already have a level 55 of whatever class they want to max level (meaning they already know how to play or should know how to play that class).

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Anaesha
07.08.2014 , 10:35 AM | #42
Quote: Originally Posted by JimG View Post
I've never been into power-leveling and always been very against anything that encourages power-leveling. I enjoy the leveling aspect of the game and enjoy building up alts step-by-step. I made the mistake of running Kuat this weekend with a character and forgot all the power-levelers would be out in full-force with it being double XP and Kuat is their avenue of choice. I couldn't figure out why the other 3 guys seemed to be dying or almost dying so easily so I checked their gear. They were all level 35-40 running with gear in the level 10-20 range. One guy was around level 35 and had no earpiece, implants or relics. These guys were obviously just power-leveling and expecting people like me to carry them through Kuat.

My roundabout way of getting back to the main point raised by the OP is that I've changed my stance on this issue. If someone wants to pay $60 to skip to level 55 with a character, under certain conditions, then I'd be okay with that because #1 - I don't have to carry their under-geared characters through group content and can just generally avoid them in my gameplay experience altogether and #2 - they are subsidizing the game with their fee. The conditions though would be legacy level 50 and they would have to already have a level 55 of whatever class they want to max level (meaning they already know how to play or should know how to play that class).
That is why I said KDY should be disabled during double xp events, not only do they make people carry them through because their gear is **** they also don't learn the basics of the character they chose.

On Topic: I am 200% against ANY game addition that lets you skip the lvl 1 to 50 content.

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07.08.2014 , 10:41 AM | #43
I don't think this would be a good idea. I have already heard from people that run group flashpoints that even the double xp was a problem with some of the flashpoints from people not knowing their class or how to play it or even using the right stats.

This would just make the problem worse for them. I know I have taken my time before I even started doing regular flashpoints, now the hardones to learn what my abilities do, which are my cc and gearing my character. I do this to show respect to those that are running these and these people are my friends and guild members and they pick at me for it but since I mainly play a healer it is important for me to do this.

But giving someone an automatic 55 would create more problems than really needed.
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07.08.2014 , 10:50 AM | #44
Man oh man, I started this thread about 10 hours ago, just to see what the response would be, and I'm pretty stoked I brought up a topic that sparked some debate and conversation. Really, in the end, that's all I was going for, I don't care if they did have a level token, but the idea of having legacy level 50 or of only being able to do it with a mirror class of something you already have a max level of (op-scoundrel) would be pretty sweet, especially if you are re rolling on a new server or something. And ya, maybe leveling is the crown jewel of this game, and I do like me some class stories. I also agree that with something like this, companions and the buff would not be included, but something like this isn't happening guys. It was a late night idea that I thought we could have a neat talk about. Also yes, me not having a lot of time does not mean I should have things handed to me, as someone posted. Also, yes I know free to play in wow does not go past level 20, I think maybe this game could do with something like that, or started with it, with preferred being able to go past it. I think that answers the posts that quoted me.

So, lets change it up a bit, now that we have a base opinion. Lets change it to say: Level up token only for people with level mirror classes at 55, or maybe chapter 3 completed of the same or mirror class. Also no buff or companions come with it, and it wouldn't just be your legacy, but your account, so that you could buy this token and re roll on a different server. And for everyone that says leveling is the crown jewel or the best way, to you I say that it is to you but not to all of us. And the mirror class thing would help it not be given to the bads, not totally but hey, you can buy a level 55 character right this second from a gold spammer so any bad can get an account if he pays.

Now again, this is just something to talk about, instead of nerfbatting, fotm, op classes, lack of content and gold spammers. Not that those are not valid threads, just wanted to talk about something different. Also, again, before I am flamed more, I am not advocating this feature, just a topic for discussion, which is what the forums are here for.

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07.08.2014 , 12:05 PM | #45
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seekerofpower
07.08.2014 , 12:52 PM | #46
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I could go on a long rant of what I think of it, but I'll keep it short. My opinion is: no. We do not need an automatic "token" that gets you to 55.

With all the Legacy XP perks, XP boosts, rested XP, guild XP bonus, and Double XP weekends, it is extremely easy to level up to 55. In fact, if you do it right, you can reach 55 in under 24 hours (a day) during a 2XP weekend (some proof). That is crazy fast.

Someone has topped that. Here are folks leveling from 1-50 in 9 hours on a double XP weekend.
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AizaTalzin
07.08.2014 , 01:06 PM | #47
Absolutely not. I would not even support a legacy reward like this. Play the game the way its meant too (i.e. Leveling) or go to another game.

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TUXs
07.08.2014 , 01:11 PM | #48
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Absolutely not. I would not even support a legacy reward like this. Play the game the way its meant too (i.e. Leveling) or go to another game.
Solid advice huh? I enjoy doing things at 55, not 1-54, so I should quit and go to another game?! How ridiculously stupid that suggestion is lol.
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jrwellworth
07.08.2014 , 01:32 PM | #49
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Solid advice huh? I enjoy doing things at 55, not 1-54, so I should quit and go to another game?! How ridiculously stupid that suggestion is lol.
Agree, but people will always think they know exactly what is right and it is what they think right is. You can't talk with people like this, but hey I thank them for their contribution to this conversation and their opinion even if I disagree and think they are rude.
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CKNORTH
07.08.2014 , 02:15 PM | #50
Remind me again why games even bother with a leveling schematic system i mean really, why not have A no level character and the advancement is strictly gear and skill orientated instead of sinking money into a 1-XX level for cash because people find leveling a tedious chore?? that once the next expansion comes out people are screaming for more levels they find tedious to get better skills and gear for, that they want to skip and spend more money to allow them to instant cap Again????????

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