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LordArtemis
07.06.2014 , 04:22 PM | #281
Quote: Originally Posted by James_four View Post
Actually, upon further testing the only difference is that the double xp bar is missing. You still get 2xp and no rested xp. It was pretty exciting for a bit though. Thanks for the effort.
Oh oh. Thats not good news.

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jupezz
07.07.2014 , 12:43 AM | #282
Quote: Originally Posted by James_four View Post
Actually, upon further testing the only difference is that the double xp bar is missing. You still get 2xp and no rested xp. It was pretty exciting for a bit though. Thanks for the effort.
Oh, that sucks. All I did was handing in a quest to see if it effected the XP gain, I didn't actually check my XP bar. Too bad.

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Uvirith
07.07.2014 , 01:38 AM | #283
Quote: Originally Posted by horrorfaneightys View Post
No way. Why should people who enjoy the event as it is now (free) have to start to start paying for it?
Because then it would be permeanent, not just a few weeks a year. I for instance only play when doubleXP is on. I would play the whole time if it where permanent.

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TravelersWay
07.07.2014 , 06:37 AM | #284
Quote: Originally Posted by James_four View Post
Actually, upon further testing the only difference is that the double xp bar is missing. You still get 2xp and no rested xp. It was pretty exciting for a bit though. Thanks for the effort.
Thanks for the info. That's what I was going to test. Ah well, back to requesting an opt out then.
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07.07.2014 , 07:52 AM | #285
Why not just give everyone a double XP token to use or not at their own leisure? I would function like an XP booster but be stack-able with other XP boosters.
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DarthTHC
07.07.2014 , 08:01 AM | #286
Quote: Originally Posted by Elfa View Post
Why not just give everyone a double XP token to use or not at their own leisure? I would function like an XP booster but be stack-able with other XP boosters.
Because they're not giving 2xp as a boon to players. They're giving 2xp because they want players to play the game during the 2xp timeframe.

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Cidanel
07.07.2014 , 08:05 AM | #287
Instead of allowing people to opt out of double XP, why not just enable a mentor leveling system, as is normal in most games? People who don't want to level as quickly can set themselves back a few levels, and people who want to blow through everything but endgame can still do it.

Personally, I hate double XP. I am leveling a tank right now exclusively PvP, and want to level as slowly as possible so that I can actually get decent at PvP. It is much easier for me to learn a new class PvPing while leveling than it is being thrown in with vets who refuse to play ranked.

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RiVaN_
07.07.2014 , 10:10 AM | #288
Well the 2x XP is over, those of us who enjoy it and take advantage of it will go back to playing normal. Those of you who are looking for an Opt-out or end to 2x XP can have the next several months of playing your prefered way. I really do hope that we get another 2x XP weekend, or week even, around Thanksgiving and Christmas.

That brings up a good point though 2x XP is only every once in a while and when it is here it is only for a short time. The rest of the time is normal game play, so why is it so horrible that those of us who aren't RP'ers or slow progressors get 2x XP once in a while? I mean the Opt-Outers get "game play your way" everyday of the week and fast levelers get gaming our way sporadically or as a special event. Why can't you all let us have our fun our way when the time comes? Why is it that people need to make a big deal out of something that happens every once in a while? I mean lets get some compromise here, maybe think of others and their desire to blast through a toon real quick. Seriously, we have to play the game your way, with slow progression every single day, why is it too much for us to get a few days of quick leveling? You get to play your way everyday, so far this year you have gotten 176 days of normal leveling and we have gotten 12 days of fast leveling. Is 12 days of 2x XP over 6 1/2 months truely too much for you Opt- Outers to give us fast levelers?

Now before you accuse me of not thinking of others because of the position I have taken, please keep in mind I came to this position after trying to put myself in the shoes of a Role Player and someone who wants to level and progress slowly. I spent a good deal of time while leveling my new toon the past 2 days thinking about how things would be for someone using storyline only to level & being 10 - 15 levels above their story. Yeah, that part of 2x XP week sucked for me too and I get where you guys are coming from. With all due respect to you all, we get 2x XP on a rare occasion in comparison to the all day everyday grind of leveling a toon that you folks enjoy.
There is something to be said for the degree of realism gained from being completely overleveled for the storyline though. Realistically, if I am the best bounty hunter out there I really should be able to ghost a foe in a single shot.

I'm not sayin' that the Opt-outers don't have a point, I started grinding KDY and PvP for XP after I realized that lvl 20 on Drummand Kass meant that I wasn't gonna earn XP from my storyline ever again. So I get where you are coming from. I guess what I'm saying is that many of us, who enjoy leveling a new toon quickly would like to "Opt Out" of normal leveling and progression. Since you all get to level at your prefered rate of speed for the cost of your subscription we want to level at our rate of speed simply for paying for our subscription too. And we would really like more than a dozen days spread over 6 1/2 months. (read that as you get to level a toon slowly at no extra cost and we want to also)

With all due respect to all of you Opt-outers complaining that you have gotten 12 days taken away from your 6 and a half months of game time so far in 2014, is kinda petty. Us speed levelers have gotten 176 days taken away from our prefered method of playing...

Ultimately you can't please everyone all the time and the Dev's want leveling to be slow so that more people are subscribed for a longer period of time, so you all win by default on a day to day basis . However, by giving us the occasional 2x XP weekend they keep those of us who want to level quickly satisfied because it creates a special event just for us.
In the end no one wins because the Opt-outers don't want to give us those 12 days because it interferes with how they play everyday and we don't want to have to meander through a story that we have seen once already just so we can get a new toon to end game. We both lose because these conversations will continue and the dev's will continue to ignore threads like this because angering the Opt-outers for 15 - 20 days over a 365 day period keeps the speed levelers happy.
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07.07.2014 , 02:26 PM | #289
Quote: Originally Posted by RiVaN_ View Post
Well the 2x XP is over, those of us who enjoy it and take advantage of it will go back to playing normal. Those of you who are looking for an Opt-out or end to 2x XP can have the next several months of playing your prefered way. I really do hope that we get another 2x XP weekend, or week even, around Thanksgiving and Christmas.

That brings up a good point though 2x XP is only every once in a while and when it is here it is only for a short time. The rest of the time is normal game play, so why is it so horrible that those of us who aren't RP'ers or slow progressors get 2x XP once in a while? I mean the Opt-Outers get "game play your way" everyday of the week and fast levelers get gaming our way sporadically or as a special event. Why can't you all let us have our fun our way when the time comes? Why is it that people need to make a big deal out of something that happens every once in a while? I mean lets get some compromise here, maybe think of others and their desire to blast through a toon real quick. Seriously, we have to play the game your way, with slow progression every single day, why is it too much for us to get a few days of quick leveling? You get to play your way everyday, so far this year you have gotten 176 days of normal leveling and we have gotten 12 days of fast leveling. Is 12 days of 2x XP over 6 1/2 months truely too much for you Opt- Outers to give us fast levelers?

Now before you accuse me of not thinking of others because of the position I have taken, please keep in mind I came to this position after trying to put myself in the shoes of a Role Player and someone who wants to level and progress slowly. I spent a good deal of time while leveling my new toon the past 2 days thinking about how things would be for someone using storyline only to level & being 10 - 15 levels above their story. Yeah, that part of 2x XP week sucked for me too and I get where you guys are coming from. With all due respect to you all, we get 2x XP on a rare occasion in comparison to the all day everyday grind of leveling a toon that you folks enjoy.
There is something to be said for the degree of realism gained from being completely overleveled for the storyline though. Realistically, if I am the best bounty hunter out there I really should be able to ghost a foe in a single shot.

I'm not sayin' that the Opt-outers don't have a point, I started grinding KDY and PvP for XP after I realized that lvl 20 on Drummand Kass meant that I wasn't gonna earn XP from my storyline ever again. So I get where you are coming from. I guess what I'm saying is that many of us, who enjoy leveling a new toon quickly would like to "Opt Out" of normal leveling and progression. Since you all get to level at your prefered rate of speed for the cost of your subscription we want to level at our rate of speed simply for paying for our subscription too. And we would really like more than a dozen days spread over 6 1/2 months. (read that as you get to level a toon slowly at no extra cost and we want to also)

With all due respect to all of you Opt-outers complaining that you have gotten 12 days taken away from your 6 and a half months of game time so far in 2014, is kinda petty. Us speed levelers have gotten 176 days taken away from our prefered method of playing...

Ultimately you can't please everyone all the time and the Dev's want leveling to be slow so that more people are subscribed for a longer period of time, so you all win by default on a day to day basis . However, by giving us the occasional 2x XP weekend they keep those of us who want to level quickly satisfied because it creates a special event just for us.
In the end no one wins because the Opt-outers don't want to give us those 12 days because it interferes with how they play everyday and we don't want to have to meander through a story that we have seen once already just so we can get a new toon to end game. We both lose because these conversations will continue and the dev's will continue to ignore threads like this because angering the Opt-outers for 15 - 20 days over a 365 day period keeps the speed levelers happy.
Really? You know better. I mean your whole rant might have some validity (but not much) if anyone here was actually against double xp, but no one is! If there is someone who does not support double xp and is against it I have never seen their post. The title of the thread says it all. I just want to opt out of double xp when it is going on. Feel free to enjoy your 2xp or 10xp. I don't care. I would like to not be forced to participate in it while it is going on. That's it!

For myself who prefers to play at a more leisurely pace and who role plays as this game is geared towards such players, double xp makes the game unplayable while it is going on unless I choose to play a max level character at max legacy level. Can you say the same about playing during regular xp days? Some players actually say the game is unplayable at less than double xp, and only play during double xp events, but I have a hard time taking them seriously.

You are asking me to compromise when you are not willing to compromise at all? What I am asking for does not affect the xp gains you get at all or the frequency of the event. You do not have to put yourself in my shoes to understand. Just recognize that for a number of us we do not like whizzing through everything and getting massive amounts of xp for doing almost nothing. Some of us play differently and what I am asking for is really quite small.

The idea that speed levelers have gotten 176 days of speed leveling taken away from you is just silly. You never had 365 days of 2xp to begin with!

Please go back and reread a few of the older posts.

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Elfa
07.07.2014 , 03:30 PM | #290
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthTHC View Post
Because they're not giving 2xp as a boon to players. They're giving 2xp because they want players to play the game during the 2xp timeframe.
Oh I get why they're doing it this way, but still...
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