housing got decoration hooks :((

Then stop pointing at things that are irrelevant.

I meant what you said was irrelevant. The Sims comparison irrelevant.

You should go ahead and start holding your breath in anticipation of getting all that.

It's not since it is a hook based system that many people consider pretty darned good.
(mods and console commands notwithstanding)

And why should I do that? Have you even read my post?I am not making here any demands or such things, I just saying that even with a low expectation it is faszinating that BioWare still could disappoint me. So, it is just a statement on how I see it, not the stupid crap you want to read into it.

I think, being that it seems obvious to me that more than one dev blew a bit of smoke here and there, one must consider a few things that are possible here....like in the past.

!) They may have given their opinions, and unfortunately those opinions seem to have been wrong, perhaps even misleading. It is up to the individual, just like in the past when they have done things like this, to decide for themselves whether or not it was intentional. This is not the first time this has happened, but to my knowledge this is the first time anyone from the NEW dev team has done this.

2) They also may have intended, originally, to provide free placement but decided against it...the reasons seem to be unclear (it has been said it was not feasible in the game, but it has been also said that they wanted the appearance of housing to be appealing and easy to work....so they wanted some control over what you could do.

Either or both could be the case. I tend to think it is more the latter than the former.

At any rate, I have decided, after listening to as much information as I can at this point to give them the benefit of the doubt on this point. I have also decided to withhold final judgement until I try this out.

I think I have made my other feelings with respect to this system and how it is designed crystal clear, so there is no need to repeat.

Not a matter of appreciation. This is NOT some gift, it's a feature being added and people are expressing what they like and dislike about it.

As for not being able to fathom any other perspective, seems to be your problem.

If you don't care your post is pointless. The person saying "it sucks" is contributing more, but most people are being a little more articulate than that.

People who take a "wait until you try it perspective" think they are neutral. The fact of the matter is it's a position fully in favor of the proposed idea. If you understand game design you know that if it get's to a point where it is "try-able" by most players, it's at a point where very little can be changed. Minor tweaks, but the underlying system has already eaten up the bulk of the development money by the time it get's to a public test server.

By pretending to take a neutral position you really are just saying let them do what they are going to do and never express your opinion. By the time you would consider it ok to express an opinion it would be too late and you'd probably just se it as whining anyway. From that perspective we wouldn't even be getting housing since it's only happening because people expressed interest in it long before the devs intended it.

I dont think I have seen this many folks afraid of opinions in a long time, since the CM was released.

Back then it was the same kind of diatribe back and forth as well.....

It looks great, people just like to complain......
It looks like crap, if you like it your part of the problem
If you dont like it, leave the game and find something you will like instead of complaining about it
We are supposed to complain about it, stop defending everything they do...
You have to be a Bioware employee....
You have to be an employee of another game company sent here to spread discourse...

And so on and so forth.

Is it really that hard to accept that.....

Some folks took a look and didnt care for what they saw.
Some folks took a look and liked what they saw even though they were concerned at first.
Some folks took a look and knew they would enjoy it.
Some folks do not care either way.

EVERY ONE OF THOSE OPINIONS ARE VALID ONES that do not require explanation or qualification IMO.

Are you really going to try and convince me that any of those opinions are wrong?

It amazes me how some folks cant seem to avoid the obsession with iceskating uphill.

I have to say that I am very disappointed in quite a few of you folks today. A few forum members in particular have behaved very badly IMO. Even attacking folks that expressed neutral opinions, or those that leaned a bit pro or con. Shameful.

I will not name names, as that would not be fair, and probably against forum rules as well....but I would expect you know if I am talking to you.

Cut it out. This type of behavior is BENEATH YOU.

Just sending you this SWG video i found, gives a pretty good perspective of how customizable things were, actually the entire city is built by players.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoD1qsygS1w

This video too great but i have seen some pretty awesome stuff in the past.

I once saw a replica of the deathstar made out of chairs and stuff.

ACTUALLY, Check out this GUNSHIP. Its alot of creative decorations
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-DNFqI66LA

I knew it, I knew that they were going to do this, a hooks system worthy of an old mmo while Aion and Rift offer a valid housing system in which we can place our objects where we want.

I hope they will change it, and change the outfit system, otherwise Swtor will continue to be a temporary game until there's a good mmo able to offer PvE servers, the possibility to play relatively solo with a bit of effort on the features and the immersion.